# EVE is brutal for a returning player. I can't imagine the difficulty for new players **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 13, 2026, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170 "2026-09-13T04:05:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/21 "2026-09-13T14:17:32Z")
I’m a big fan of this blog! > **[Don’t play EVE Online!](https://greedygoblinblog.wordpress.com/dont-play-eve-online/)** > > You probably heard of the MMO EVE Online. The only MMO with meaningful PVP, the only without rails and many other “only” qualities. You might think of trying it out. Don’t! I was … 🌞 ---
**Author:** ![hyprviper1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyprviper1/32/475114_2.png) [@hyprviper1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hyprviper1)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/22 "2026-09-13T15:30:32Z")
i have come here to post. ---
**Author:** ![Tharshe\_Bloes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharshe_bloes/32/491277_2.png) [@Tharshe\_Bloes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharshe_Bloes)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/23 "2026-09-13T15:40:12Z")
Interesting blog. Very informative. I liked this part: “_Sure, you can play for years without any real world harassment, as long as you suck and no one cares what you do._” I should be fine then 🤗 ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/24 "2026-09-13T15:42:47Z")
“Behind every great man is a band of haters” - Jim Toot that horn mothabiches. Sing my songs! ---
**Author:** ![Sopleb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sopleb/32/510962_2.png) [@Sopleb](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sopleb)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/25 "2026-09-13T16:25:55Z")
same, surprised there was no spelling mistakes though ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/26 "2026-09-13T16:35:10Z")
> [@Distaine](#): > > Bro the first million I made in Eve was stolen. Somebody got ganked right in front of me and I stole some loot. 1m for an afterburner baby!!! I was ratting in Aurcel during some event, and I looted a 40m ISK item. Which as a week old noob was a fortune. > [@Distaine](#): > > There’s been a lot of anti-pvp mechanics introduced since then. Sub 2 second warps, lower scan res I’ve been unable to lock on some ships at Jita even with 2400 scan res. Its all become rather absurd. ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/27 "2026-09-13T16:45:04Z")
Bro it’s it’s so absurd that the server ping has become the most relevant factor in ship fittings even near it. You think that would be a clue to CCP that something is wrong. Sometimes two and three modules on the lows are completely useless and do nothing because we’ve gone beyond the limits of the game simply to avoid PVP. And of course 95% of people probably have no idea what I just said. I literally named every one of my ships with its scan res and other statistics. It’s pretty easy for me to notice when they’re making changes and not telling the public. When they added the new little Navy frigates… They did walk this back a little bit by taking away some of the most commonly used fittings out of the sub 2 second category. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/28 "2026-09-13T16:46:36Z")
Hm… You were attacking someone-s POCOs and didn’t expect any resistance? Interesting… ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/29 "2026-09-13T16:58:20Z")
Me as well. But ill add…being very vigilant and watchful does help a ton…no matter the scale of carebearness we may be. 🙂 🌹 ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/30 "2026-09-13T17:03:58Z")
Most new players aren’t moving billion isk ships around, nor are they hanging out in wormholes. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/31 "2026-09-13T17:16:32Z")
> [@Distaine](#): > > Bro it’s it’s so absurd that the server ping has become the most relevant factor in ship fittings even near it. You think that would be a clue to CCP that something is wrong. Sometimes two and three modules on the lows are completely useless and do nothing because we’ve gone beyond the limits of the game simply to avoid PVP. And of course 95% of people probably have no idea what I just said. What is truly absurd is that my 1000 scan res Fleet Issue Hurricane can lock up ships in no time, yet my 2400 scan res Loki can often struggle. Something is definitely not right. I have wondered whether having 5 sensor boosters means the time it takes to click them all is longer than a server click so I am only getting part of them cycling in each click. ---
**Author:** ![hyprviper1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyprviper1/32/475114_2.png) [@hyprviper1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hyprviper1)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/32 "2026-09-13T19:28:36Z")
wait how do you get the CSM tag next to your name on the fourms? ---
**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/33 "2026-09-13T19:43:19Z")
You get elected to the CSM. Your timing is spot on to campaign for a seat on next year’s panel. > **[CSM 21: Is it Your Time? | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/csm-21-is-it-your-time)** > > Will you impact the future of New Eden? ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/34 "2026-09-13T20:07:03Z")
> [@hyprviper1](#): > > how do you get the CSM tag next to your name on the fourms? > [@Anna\_Dyneaux](#): > > You ~~get elected to the CSM.~~ pay your friendly next-door nullsec bloc to mercifully let you run for a spot on CSM in exchange for ~~sexual~~ favors… FIxed that. * * * @Anna_Dyneaux I remember I was supposed to write you. I will get to it in the coming days. Been a bit lazy. ---
**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/35 "2026-09-13T20:26:30Z")
One day, a friendly null bloc will decide I’m worthy of a vacation to Iceland. Just letting y’all know, I’ll push whatever line you want, I just really want to look at the volcanoes and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asgidur_hurtini/32/494282_2.png) [@Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asgidur_Hurtini)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/36 "2026-09-14T00:26:35Z")
@Gevlon_Goblin I dunno you, but I’m sure of two things: 1 - You are pretty notorious; 2 - It was totally personal, I don’t think what you experienced is the newbie norm; Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/37 "2026-09-14T12:20:17Z")
> [@Anna\_Dyneaux](#): > > One day, a friendly null bloc will decide I’m worthy of a vacation to Iceland. Only if you can say Eyjafjallajökull correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/38 "2026-09-14T13:36:34Z")
I actually can do that. ---
**Author:** ![Hun\_Tra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hun_tra/32/511052_2.png) [@Hun\_Tra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hun_Tra)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/39 "2026-09-14T17:44:22Z")
Reship, shoot back. ---
**Author:** ![ARES\_DES1DERATA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ares_des1derata/32/462269_2.png) [@ARES\_DES1DERATA](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ARES_DES1DERATA)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170/40 "2026-09-14T18:42:40Z")
Buddy, flying freighters and squalls and going into wormholes is not the new player experience [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-brutal-for-a-returning-player-i-cant-imagine-the-difficulty-for-new-players/518170.md?page=3)