# EVE Is Dangerous. Yeah Right

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 27, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190 "2018-10-27T06:01:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/244 "2018-11-05T13:48:04Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> Ignorant is forcing your playstyle on others

You can not possibly be that stupid.

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/246 "2018-11-05T16:53:01Z")

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> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#):
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> You are insulting me

You’re insulting the player base with your ridiculous and self-centred carping. The vast majority of people don’t want New Eden turned into a theme park as you would have it, and if it does your game will die. It really is that simple. You can stamp and whine and smirk all you like and yes you’ll very likely achieve at least a portion of your goal.

What’s laughable about the minority who claim to have the ear of CCP and PA is that all of this was likely pre-ordained. You’ll end up with a stale, monetised bag of turds who’s development will undoubtedly start focusing on the mobile market, much like with Diablo. Then you can enjoy flying around in your legendary Hello Kitty skinned RNI with a Yoshi skinned pilot in relatively empty space with minimal interaction to your heart’s content, providing you are willing (which I can tell you will be) to spend a few hundred dollars for the privilege.

It’ll be epic.

You may now commence telling me all about how bitter I am and how you’ve ‘won’.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/247 "2018-11-05T16:56:00Z")

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> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#):
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> You are insulting me

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

You’ve spent the last couple of months insulting everybody that thinks your proclamations of PA being the carebear messiah are a great steaming pile of bovine excrement.

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/248 "2018-11-05T16:57:43Z")

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> [@Mortlake](#):
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> You’re insulting the player base with your ridiculous and self-centred carping.

You brought ccp to the edge of the bankruptcy itself and you have lost the right to any respect or consideration.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/249 "2018-11-05T16:58:37Z")

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> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#):
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> edge of the bankruptcy

$40,000,000 in the bank at the time they were purchased by PA is hardly bankrupt.

In all probability CCPs investors sold their shares to PA to return a sizeable profit and a cash injection for their other investments, not because their investment was about to blow up in their faces.

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/250 "2018-11-05T17:05:10Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> $40,000,000 in the bank at the time they were purchased by PA is hardly bankrupt.

How they get that money? Ask falcon what they do with customer support and several other department.  
Wit that move they said, “These our departments do not work well, so we sold them, dear PA here’s the money and re-make our departments right” 😊

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/251 "2018-11-05T17:06:16Z")

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You are totally ■■■■■■■ clueless lol.

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/252 "2018-11-05T17:07:13Z")

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And you are shallow and spoiled 😊

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/253 "2018-11-05T17:16:23Z")

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> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#):
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> customer support and several other department.

I thought you said you knew how business worked…

I would guess at the lions share of that 40M being the result of a process called rationalisation. With Dust and Valkyrie no longer being in development, the VR stuff being cut to the bone (because neither the market or the tech is quite there) they had personnel and equipment they no longer needed; and a cost saving that could be made.

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/254 "2018-11-05T17:29:40Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> I thought you said you knew how business worked…
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> I would guess at the lions share of that 40M being the result of a process called rationalisation. With Dust and Valkyrie no longer being in development, the VR stuff being cut to the bone (because neither the market or the tech is quite there) they had personnel and equipment they no longer needed; and a cost saving that could be made.

Lets talk bussines. OK !

2 years ago investor tried to sell CCP as technology company for 980 M$ and FAILED BIG TIME,  
after that they turned everything they could into liquid assets and sold CCP as simple bussines copmpany ( ccp has claimed for 15 years that it is a top technology company 🤣 ) for 185 M$ ( 225 - 40 in bank ) and conditional 200 M$

# **GREAT JOB CCP !!**

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/255 "2018-11-05T17:50:45Z")

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> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#):
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> 185 M$ ( 225 - 40 in bank )

AFAIK the fact that CCP had 40M in bank the doesn’t mean that it gets deducted from the initial 225M purchase price.

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/256 "2018-11-05T17:57:20Z")

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That is how much cost it to PA, and Ivestors give liquid CCPs 40 $M to get 40 $M from PA …  
Everyone know to read that …

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/257 "2018-11-05T19:10:29Z")

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Some guys here will never be able to look behind the real meaning of propaganda statements…

CERTAINLY all is right and CCP’s investors are pleased with the sum they got,even if it’s just 1/3 of what they hoped…

You will not ruin the buisness by confessiong the complains…because otherwise you would be sued…

This is just basical knowledge of how a transaction like this works…

Look behind the curtain and you see pissed investors that DEMAND more(the 200M).

And this MORE can only be created with massive changes of the only product CCP has to throw in the ring :EVE.  
This means pricesely to reconstruct the game to fit into the mainstream market so that 10 year old kids can create the MORE using dad’s Credit card…and this means loot boxes and all that comes with it…

Sry but if you don’t see it coming you deserve to be hit by that truck…

Not today,not tomorrow,but in let’s say 1 year…

I wish you all a good healthcare insurance…

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/258 "2018-11-05T21:41:34Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> I wish you all a good healthcare insurance…

Sorry, can’t hear you over the sound of my free at point of access health care.

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/259 "2018-11-05T23:36:41Z")

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I beat Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver with only a Furret. Is that what you’re asking?

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**Author:** ![Pur3Bl00D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pur3bl00d/32/384679_2.png) [@Pur3Bl00D](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pur3Bl00D)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/260 "2018-11-06T01:23:11Z")

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posting in an epic thread

the game mechanics are just fine, ccp dont change them please  
or i’ll quit

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/261 "2018-11-06T03:42:29Z")

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> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#):
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> Lets talk bussines. OK !
> 
> 2 years ago investor tried to sell CCP as technology company for 980 M$ and FAILED BIG TIME,  
> after that they turned everything they could into liquid assets and sold CCP as simple bussines copmpany ( ccp has claimed for 15 years that it is a top technology company 🤣 ) for 185 M$ ( 225 - 40 in bank ) and conditional 200 M$
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> # **GREAT JOB CCP !!**

> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#):
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> You brought ccp to the edge of the bankruptcy itself and you have lost the right to any respect or consideration.

And you blame PVPers for CCP’s failed side projects… I sit on your respect and consideration.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/262 "2018-11-06T05:55:06Z")

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[@ISD](https://forums.eveonline.com/groups/ISD) Since this thread is supposed to be about how dangerous EvE is…and @Predvodnica_LSG as it so derailed into aspects of RL bussiness and such…

Think we could get this eyesore closed?

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/263 "2018-11-06T07:04:57Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> And you blame PVPers for CCP’s failed side projects

Yes because you ruined CCPs last asset, Eve Online.

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/264 "2018-11-06T08:55:02Z")

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> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#):
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> You are insulting me and smart forum hide MY post, great softwer, great company, your fake majority came to the end along with those from the company that supported you.  
> The new boss came and found interesting things in the data, and that’s just the beginning.

Great community, that “community” is one of reasons why PA will chage Eve, a lot 😊

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