# EVE Is Dangerous. Yeah Right **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 27, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190 "2018-10-27T06:01:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/306 "2018-11-07T18:40:53Z")
What’s posted on these forums means absolutely nothing the majority of players don’t read or post here or Reddit for that matter, CCP’s new overlords have an agenda what that is can be debated until the cows come home. What I have learned is that BDO generally goes it’s own way regardless of what players and subsiduries want. So time will tell, i’m sure we won’t have to wait to much longer to find out. As for Eve being dangerous no its not it’s just broken, stuff being released for null yet again while high-sec once again misses out. I think over the coming months and year this will be rectified just my opinion. Lvl 5 missions being allowed back would be good start, this triglavian pvp area crap won’t wash with mission runners and CCP should know this. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/307 "2018-11-07T18:55:34Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > high-sec once again misses out. Eve is, and always should be, a tradeoff between risk and reward. You want your level 5 missions back. First, that hurts lowsec. Second, what are you prepared to trade for that drastic increase in reward? Would you be prepared to go suspect inside a L5 mission? HS doesn’t get new content because HS players are irrelevant to Eve. Literally the only thing they do to contribute to the health of the game is get ganked. Take the training wheels off, and you’ll find there’s a whole galaxy of content out there for you. It isn’t even all PVP, though you may end up getting involved in it (by choice or by force). ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/308 "2018-11-07T19:02:40Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > HS doesn’t get new content because **HS players are irrelevant to Eve. Literally the only thing they do to contribute to the health of the game is get ganked.** Take the training wheels off, and you’ll find there’s a whole galaxy of content out there for you. It isn’t even all PVP, though you may end up getting involved in it (by choice or by force). According to written Hi Sec players should be released from subscription payments … ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/309 "2018-11-07T19:03:22Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > According to written Hi Sec players should be released from subscription payments … They are. They can play as alpha clones all they like. There’s exactly nothing compelling them to pay CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/310 "2018-11-07T19:06:52Z")
Your obviously not a mission runner, if you were you would already know the answer, low-sec hurts low-sec not lvl 5 mission runners of which they cannot be many. So moving them back to their rightful place in high-sec would not hurt low-sec because quite frankly low-sec is dead, dying and on the way out. FW a shadow of itself even Snuff coming back won’t help its to late. People don’t want that crap anymore look at the data. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/311 "2018-11-07T19:10:14Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > Your obviously not a mission runner I ran one. It was boring. I never said mission runners would hurt lowsec, I said moving lvl 5 missions out of lowsec would hurt lowsec. You can be sure that nobody would run them in low if they exist in high. As you say, lowsec is already on its deathbed; there’s no reason to hasten that. Triaging HS by harming LS is foolish to say the least. And it’s funny, but you didn’t answer my question. So I’ll ask again. What risk are you prepared to accept for the higher rewards of L5 missions in HS? ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/312 "2018-11-07T19:14:12Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > I ran one. It was boring. Your answer says it all as for mine let me run lvl 5 missions in high-sec with dread’s and i’ll happily applaud when CCP get rid of concord. Thats my trade off. As for your trade off, appeal to CCP for a name change remove the pervert and put in fart and your good to go. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/313 "2018-11-07T19:18:49Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > Your answer says it all as for mine let me run lvl 5 missions in high-sec with dread’s and i’ll happily applaud when CCP get rid of concord. Thats my trade off. As for your trade off, appeal to CCP for a name change remove the pervert and put in fart and your good to go. Okay, I like you. Your vaunted HS becomes lowsec (no concord), and what’s better, you’ll happily die in a dread (no caps in HS). That’s a fair trade. But let me ask you… if you don’t need concord and you just want to run them in a capital, why do you care what happens in HS? You’re already 99.9% of the way towards lowsec and nullsec gameplay. > [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > As for your trade off, appeal to CCP for a name change remove the pervert and put in fart and your good to go. My feels… they’re so hurt. I don’t know if they’ll ever recover from such a horrible burn. Oh, nevermind. I’m all better. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/314 "2018-11-07T19:27:20Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Oh, nevermind. I’m all better. I’m glad your all healed up, can you open a window it stinks in here. Keep the dread i’m off back to high-sec to wait for my lvl 5 missions to be re-instated. People don’t run them that often in low-sec I would love to get my hands on the data. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/315 "2018-11-07T19:31:14Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > I’m glad your all healed up, can you open a window it stinks in here. Keep the dread i’m off back to high-sec to wait for my lvl 5 missions to be re-instated. People don’t run them that often in low-sec I would love to get my hands on the data. Wait… what? Is that your way of saying “well ■■■■, I didn’t realize that lowsec is exactly what I’ve wanted all along, but I can’t admit that when I was just arguing against it so REEEEEEEEEEEE (and bye!)”? Good arguing with you. Come back when you are ready to get called out on something stupid again. Have fun being irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/316 "2018-11-07T19:34:50Z")
I stand by what I have said. Concord in hig-sec only benefits the griefer always have. High-sec need’s a overhaul and for caps I have always been an advocate for caps being allowed back in high-sec, along with lvl 5 missions. I don’t care about low-sec old man star gets old and fast. ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/317 "2018-11-07T19:36:34Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > “well ■■■■, I didn’t realize that lowsec is exactly what I’ve wanted all along, but I can’t admit that when I was just arguing against it so REEEEEEEEEEEE (and bye!)”? This argument in a nutshell… Made me chuckle. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/318 "2018-11-07T19:39:28Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Wait… what? Is that your way of saying “well ■■■■, I didn’t realize that lowsec is exactly what I’ve wanted all along, but I can’t admit that when I was just arguing against it so REEEEEEEEEEEE (and bye!)”? Yeah should have read properly oh well ■■■■ gets typed. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/319 "2018-11-07T19:44:56Z")
Still hiding in perkone eh that’s so pvp. Don’t like the old wardecc I see. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/320 "2018-11-07T20:41:25Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > Still hiding in perkone eh that’s so pvp. If that was directed at me, I’m posting from my market alt. I always post from my market alt, because at the end of the day I choose to represent myself. My words, and those alone (not my killboard, alliance ticker, etc) do that. It’s always telling when one reverts to base ad hominem attacks against one’s killboard, ticker, etc, because it’s a clear indication of an irrefutable position. The argument, regardless of who makes it, is the same argument and thus it alone matters here. I make no secret of the fact that I’m a null powerbloc line member and that I shoot at the goons in any posts where the topic comes up in other threads, and I’m happy to say it here too. Any further proof or detail is unimportant to me. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/321 "2018-11-07T20:47:14Z")
I was not attacking your killboard or ticker I don’t care either way, if you want to be an F1 monkey thats your business, you know nothing of missions or how people like me are affected in high-sec. Sitting in your ivory tower protected by a null power block and posting with a toon thats been in an NPC corp for years and years spouting stuff about pvp in high-sec and wardeccs for that matter, makes you look weak. Your words are unimportant to me you matter not one squit. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/322 "2018-11-07T20:55:51Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > if you want to be an F1 monkey thats your business Ad hominem! See? That’s what happens when your argument doesn’t hold merit and you aren’t ready to accept that you’ve lost the argument. What I do, and how I do it, hold no bearing on the words that I put here. If you can’t provide a counter-argument, what’s the point? > [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > you know nothing of missions What is there to really know? It’s not exactly rocket science. I mean, ■■■■, even HS bears can do it. - Accept the mission - Transit as needed to the system with the mission - Warp to the deadspace pocket and do the things - Transit back - Complete the mission That’s mission running. Whether you do full clears or speed runs, what fits you use, which missions are best, none of that has any bearing. That’s all the knowledge I need to have an informed opinion. Which, incidentally, I don’t even need that knowledge for this exact topic. As I said before, the argument, whether being made by someone who has run missions for the last decade or by someone who ran one and said ■■■■ this, remains the same. You’ve failed to provide a single counter-point to the argument. > [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > makes you look weak And yet… you have zero actual counter-points to my argument. How does it feel to utterly lose an argument to someone “weak”? ---
**Author:** ![bojangles02\_Odunen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bojangles02_odunen/32/57193_2.png) [@bojangles02\_Odunen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bojangles02_Odunen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/323 "2018-11-09T17:15:51Z")
Nova is on its way, looks like you got it wrong, 1,2,3. ---
**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/324 "2018-11-10T01:50:06Z")
on it’s way, but when it does release, lets hope it does well, looks brilliant plays well, cant’ see why it won’t do well, then it will be 3 yes 🙂 and well done CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/325 "2018-11-10T23:10:09Z")
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