# EVE Is Dangerous. Yeah Right **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 27, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190 "2018-10-27T06:01:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/326 "2018-11-11T09:26:02Z")
It’s not free though. You are paying for it with your taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/327 "2018-11-11T11:14:09Z")
There’s a qualifier in my post, it’s free in the sense that access is based on clinical need, not the ability to pay. Sometimes it gets abused by people from other countries, we call that health tourism ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/328 "2018-11-11T11:29:29Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > So PVP is great and OK when mega SP toon kills newbies in High Space. But it’s ok when my sub 5m SP alpha alts drop ‘mega SP’ 5b bling chariots? Cool 😌 ---
**Author:** ![Tater-nuts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tater-nuts/32/189043_2.png) [@Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/329 "2018-11-11T11:37:17Z")
There are plenty of Alphas running around null ratting with VNI’s, so get off your high horse. Also, getting ganked is the only thing making a high sec player relevant? Really? I’ll need an excavator to shovel your pile of crap. I mainly do low sec pvp and even I know better than that. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/330 "2018-11-11T20:05:18Z")
> [@Tater-nuts](#): > > There are plenty of Alphas running around null ratting with VNI’s, so get off your high horse. > > Also, getting ganked is the only thing making a high sec player relevant? Really? > > I’ll need an excavator to shovel your pile of crap. > > I mainly do low sec pvp and even I know better than that. A PVP’ers brain works like that…all other playstyles are content for his strange hobby… About time CCP/PA shows PVP how “relevant” they really are for the game…and to put PVP in their place…the place of a 25% minority only allowed to roam in low and 0.0 where they belong… ---
**Author:** ![Tater-nuts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tater-nuts/32/189043_2.png) [@Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/331 "2018-11-12T10:04:37Z")
Your not very bright, I’m agreeing with you to a point, you idiot.🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/332 "2018-11-12T10:10:17Z")
> [@Tater-nuts](#): > > _ **Your** _ not very bright, I’m agreeing with you to a point, you idiot.🤪 Ironic. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/333 "2018-11-12T16:01:47Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Ironic. 🙂 The truth is never ironic,the truth is just the truth…there’s only one… ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/334 "2018-11-12T16:02:40Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > The truth is never ironic,the truth is just the truth…there’s only one… The truth isn’t supposition or opinion either, stop promoting your suppositions and opinion as truth or fact. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/335 "2018-11-12T16:04:42Z")
I’m proud of beeing called an idiot while telling the truth…it shows what my opponents really are…just trolls that don’t care for the game just for their own convinience in doing PVP… ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/336 "2018-11-12T16:06:25Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > telling the truth It’s not the truth if it’s your opinion, it may be YOUR perception of the truth, but it’s not THE truth ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/337 "2018-11-12T16:07:50Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > It’s not the truth if it’s your opinion, it may be YOUR perception go the truth, but it’s not THE truth Sure it is… There’s no “opinion” in the needs of the game…just pure facts…telling facts is telling the truth,nothing more nothing less…you may not like it but you cannot pervert it… ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/338 "2018-11-12T16:13:26Z")
Whatever you say you have no valid point and you know it… All you can tell about “eve will die without pvp in high” or “this would be another eve” or crap like that are just assumptions because NO ONE EVER tried eve without PVP in high… So there is NO proof that it would not work… Sure it would be inconviniend for PVP…they would have to move and face REAL pvp, no easy kills against unarmed indus ore pvp fittet mission runenrs anymore…just REAL PVP… That’s what they fear…and THIS is the problem of it… ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/339 "2018-11-12T16:13:42Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > There’s no “opinion” in the needs of the game Of course there is, what you think the game needs is your opinion, what others think the game needs is their opinion. Your thoughts on the matter may not correspond with theirs; this being a subjective matter and thus your opinion can’t be fact or truth. > …just pure facts…telling facts is telling the truth,nothing more nothing less…you may not like it but you cannot pervert it… Your opinion, which is what you’re presenting, is not fact nor is it truth Truth being the quality or state of being true. Opinion being a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/340 "2018-11-12T16:16:00Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Of course there is, what you think the game needs is your opinion, what others think the game needs is their opinion. Your thoughts on the matter may not correspond with theirs; this is a subjective matter and thus can’t be fact or truth. Loosing player on a daily base is fact enough for the FACT that the game needs a 180° turnaround > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Your opinion, which is what you’re presenting, is not fact nor is it truth > > Truth being the quality or state of being true. > > Opinion being a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. Again just nonsense in your desperate effort to find a weak spot that does not exist ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/341 "2018-11-12T16:19:50Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > Loosing player on a daily base is fact enough for the FACT that the game needs a 180° turnaround Eve has been losing players on a daily basis since 2003; hence the saying, it’s not for everyone. > Again just nonsense in your desperate effort to find a weak spot that does not exist When you can discern the difference between opinion and fact you may have a leg to stand on, at the moment you’re the internet spaceships equivalent of Lieutenant Dan. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/342 "2018-11-12T16:21:02Z")
I said it…no valid point so you try to create one… Does not work… ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/343 "2018-11-12T16:21:55Z")
The point is that what you spout as fact, isn’t. It’s your opinion, mine differs from yours; neither is fact. The difference between you and I, is that I am neither arrogant or ignorant enough to try and pass my opinion off as fact. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/344 "2018-11-12T19:05:11Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > pervert ![Spiderquag](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/8/38d4b21340b583a4d5ba80d8e53c7b17df946139.png) ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/345 "2018-11-12T19:37:19Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > The point is that what you spout as fact, isn’t. > > It’s your opinion, mine differs from yours; neither is fact. > > The difference between you and I, is that I am neither arrogant or ignorant enough to try and pass my opinion off as fact. The point is that i’m right and you are wrong. So you start a desperate and pitiful attempt to devalue my posts just because it leads to conclusions you do not like… This is in no way adult behaviour…just those of spoiled kids that don’t wanna loose their precious toy (PVP everywhere), That all that’s to say about it… This ,i said this before, will not work… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190.md?page=16) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190.md?page=18)