# EVE Is Dangerous. Yeah Right **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 27, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190 "2018-10-27T06:01:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/386 "2018-11-14T14:02:41Z")
_Even_ if they _all_ were PvP-ers and gankers the numbers show that those who supposed to replace them are nowhere to be found. ---
**Author:** ![Noctis\_Nellie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noctis_nellie/32/106423_2.png) [@Noctis\_Nellie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noctis_Nellie)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/387 "2018-11-14T14:05:34Z")
I do not have any answers i’m just a Noctis pilot sucking up the detritus thats floating in space. Most people I know in Eve keep themselves to themselves and a lot of the shouting is done by players wanting to keep pvp alive. But don’t quote me on that I’m just a wreck sucker after all. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/388 "2018-11-14T14:10:50Z")
> [@Noctis\_Nellie](#): > > I do not have any answers Me neither, but i know that the population decline is not a hisec pvp issue, it’s wider than that. ---
**Author:** ![Noctis\_Nellie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noctis_nellie/32/106423_2.png) [@Noctis\_Nellie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noctis_Nellie)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/389 "2018-11-14T14:13:26Z")
It’s a tricky game to balance, a lot of factions to appease. ---
**Author:** ![Noctis\_Nellie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noctis_nellie/32/106423_2.png) [@Noctis\_Nellie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noctis_Nellie)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/390 "2018-11-14T14:16:30Z")
This new activity tracker should give us an idea of what may be happening, and for what reasons people are quitting over. A nice feature glad its here. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/391 "2018-11-14T14:16:51Z")
And a cultural issue also, that’s not the kind of game people really enjoy nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Alharazaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omar_alharazaad/32/253881_2.png) [@Omar\_Alharazaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omar_Alharazaad)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/392 "2018-11-14T14:59:37Z")
Christ Veers, I’m kinda glad you’re back. But… seriously, switch to fecking decaf already. Today is no different from yesterday. It’s all the same day. By your reasoning EVE should have already died a long time ago. It didn’t because it didn’t cater the mewling masses spewing forth their nonsense about being safe in ‘high security’ space. CCP has on more than one occasion flatly stated that even though high sec is ‘safer’ than other sectors of space it was never intended to be completely ‘safe’. ■■■■ the majority. That has been the way of life for EVE for fifteen bloody years. It is NOT a game for the majority, the majority can go wank off in WoW and STO and SWG… oh wait that one choked to death on it’s own carebeariness… ignore that bit. EVE is and always has been a niche game, and that niche has kept it alive where others would fail. It’s never going to be the most popular game out there, and yes… it sheds new players like no other. It fails to retain 90% of those who try it, because it’s not the game for them. Now, here’s the hard pill to swallow, you insufferable little scrotal tumor… THIS IS WORKING AS INTENDED. We do not want players here who will not enjoy the game as it is. We love this game, and YES we do want to see it improve… HOWEVER, we do not consider compromising the soul of this game in order to see it retain more players as a form of improvement. That is ■■■■■■■ heresy and merits a jolly good burning at the stake. Color within the lines if at all possible, and for the love of all that is unholy, please PLEASE stop eating the goddamned crayons. ---
**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/393 "2018-11-14T16:29:17Z")
> [@Omar\_Alharazaad](#): > > Christ Veers, I’m kinda glad you’re back. But… seriously, switch to fecking decaf already. > > Today is no different from yesterday. It’s all the same day. By your reasoning EVE should have already died a long time ago. It didn’t because it didn’t cater the mewling masses spewing forth their nonsense about being safe in ‘high security’ space. CCP has on more than one occasion flatly stated that even though high sec is ‘safer’ than other sectors of space it was never intended to be completely ‘safe’. > > ■■■■ the majority. That has been the way of life for EVE for fifteen bloody years. It is NOT a game for the majority, the majority can go wank off in WoW and STO and SWG… oh wait that one choked to death on it’s own carebeariness… ignore that bit. EVE is and always has been a niche game, and that niche has kept it alive where others would fail. It’s never going to be the most popular game out there, and yes… it sheds new players like no other. It fails to retain 90% of those who try it, because it’s not the game for them. > > Now, here’s the hard pill to swallow, you insufferable little scrotal tumor… THIS IS WORKING AS INTENDED. > We do not want players here who will not enjoy the game as it is. We love this game, and YES we do want to see it improve… HOWEVER, we do not consider compromising the soul of this game in order to see it retain more players as a form of improvement. That is ■■■■■■■ heresy and merits a jolly good burning at the stake. > Color within the lines if at all possible, and for the love of all that is unholy, please PLEASE stop eating the goddamned crayons. quoting so ppl read it twice ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/394 "2018-11-14T18:46:10Z")
That was the problem. The only thing thats going to keep the game going, the only thing engaging enough to keep players interested, the only thing self sustaining and the very thing that drives a real market in a sandbox is the pvp playerbase. But nerf pvp in the hope that loads of new players flood the game, just resulted in pvp players leaving or not being replaced by new pvp players. Meanwhile the carebears that were supposed to come instead, never did in anything near the numbers anyone hoped. And those that did, never stayed for long (like they never stay in any game for long. Even wow players don’t play longer than a couple years. Where as eve’s pvp players last 5-10 years, or even longer for some) Anyways, that’s my rant. Alienate the core playerbase, sold the golden goose. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/395 "2018-11-14T18:48:30Z")
Those “rhis game is not for you” states are pure nonsense if your dogmatic opinion let’s you loose 90% of all possible players. This is not reasonable… More mainstreams means more players staying and less pvp in high means the same simply because pvp stays the MINORITY of players and your buisness goal has to be the MAJORITY. So facing the mainstream wind is not bad at all it just will lift EVE out of the niche and this is in no way bad… Yes…some PVP’er will ragequit but they are dispensable,the gain will be big enough to compensate the dogmatic people who simply do not want to see that a change is indispensable. A change will come and this is good news… ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Kalfren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eric_kalfren/32/110261_2.png) [@Eric\_Kalfren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eric_Kalfren)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/396 "2018-11-14T18:54:00Z")
…곧 ™ ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/397 "2018-11-14T18:54:49Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > More mainstreams means more players staying History shows different. If anyone who has ever played a game is a ‘potential player’, then i cannot think of any game that has captured anywhere near 90% of potential players. What you expect is unrealistic of any game. And you’re solution that all games should be the same or similar by copying eachother is retarded at best. You should go tell Gordon Ramsey he would be more successful by copying the mcdonalds menu. > [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > Yes…some PVP’er will ragequit but they are dispensable,the gain will be big enough to compensate the dogmatic That’s what they said about wardec nerfs in 2012. About ganking nerfs. About removing friendly fire in corps. About the suspect flag. About making eve free to play. About removing the watch list. About nerfing ninja-salvaging. And yet here we are still waiting on the influx of players that are going to replace the pvp’rs. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/398 "2018-11-14T18:55:09Z")
Kitten intermission whilst @Balos_Tritapo pounds his keyboard furiously because people dare to disagree with him. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/b/7b3e95839e54d7d391ec36bb790c058b626d0fe2.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/399 "2018-11-14T19:08:43Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > History shows different. You mean the history in which an approach like this was never tried beside some half-hearted minimal attempts that could not work that way and that were tried to shut down by the loudmouthed pvp minority from the first second because of the inconvinience it caused to them? Well that’s an interesting way to look at “the history”… I would rather call it history falsification… In fact it was NEVER tried…but it has to be now and the big mouths have to be ignored completly…should they ragequit no pity about them. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/400 "2018-11-14T19:13:17Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > You should go tell Gordon Ramsey he would be more successful by copying the mcdonalds menu. Another example would be telling Morgan to make lots of modern cars instead of limited numbers of glorious anachronisms from the past. From what I can see he doesn’t understand the term niche, if it’s not mainstream it’s not worth it as far as he’s concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/401 "2018-11-14T19:14:53Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Kitten intermission whilst @Balos_Tritapo pounds his keyboard furiously because people dare to disagree with him. Beeing right is beeing right… Ir’s no risk in stating the right thing even if you have the world against you…the world is not right just because it’s the world…🙂 Pa/CCP’s actions will show you how right i am…maybe you will not like it but one thing you cannot say : that nobody told you it would happen 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/402 "2018-11-14T19:20:44Z")
You know what else was never tried? Going back to a more pvp focused game. You go on and on about how what you want will save the game. And this isn’t the first time you’ve done it if what another just said is true. And if it is, you got what you wanted back then too, but did you stick around to enjoy getting what you wanted? No…none of you cretins did. Same old ■■■■. Same result. But let’s do it some more. It’ll work this time, right? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/403 "2018-11-14T19:21:40Z")
Are you as certain of yourself in real life? Do you know what the differences between opinion and fact are? Do you consistently blame others for your failings in real life too? Do you have a moustache and live somewhere that’s close to the arctic circle? Because your whole spiel smacks of Salvos. Either way, egotistical, uninformed, close minded, lowest common denominator, nitwit confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/404 "2018-11-14T19:23:16Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > From what I can see he doesn’t understand the term niche, if it’s not mainstream it’s not worth it as far as he’s concerned. People who want mcdonalds goto mcdonalds. People who like ford mondeos buy ford mondeos. Balos likes hello kitty online, plays eve. 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/405 "2018-11-14T19:23:20Z")
Right… More PVP instead of less as it has to be in an already 99% PVP focused game is THE solution… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190.md?page=21)