# EVE Is Dangerous. Yeah Right

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 27, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190 "2018-10-27T06:01:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/406 "2018-11-14T19:24:04Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Salvos

Please no  
Not again 😂

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/407 "2018-11-14T19:24:50Z")

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Yes. Tell ferrari to make a fiat 500 instead of another ferrari styled super car.

Edit- wait, tell them to STOP making supercars and that they should make smart cars and family cars instead. Or a pick-up

Edit2- or when they try to make a more mainstream car, find out it doesn’t work, to double down and make even moar family cars.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/408 "2018-11-14T19:25:53Z")

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Oh, that’s not how it actually works?  
😞

/s

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/409 "2018-11-14T19:27:24Z")

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> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#):
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> Yes. Tell ferrari to make a fiat 500 instead of another ferrari styled super car

Eve is no ferrari…eve is a mercedes and mercedes benz forces you to use it in a crashcar event only because 25% of their customers are crashcar pilots…

That\*s a perfect way to describe eve

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/410 "2018-11-14T19:29:37Z")

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> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#):
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> when they try to make a more mainstream car, find out it doesn’t work, to double down and make even moar family cars.

This is called a Lancia Thema or Maserati Quattroporte

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/411 "2018-11-14T19:30:49Z")

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There is nothing wrong about family cars…or automatic shifting…

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/412 "2018-11-14T19:35:30Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> automatic shifting

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/2/3283703a5eb41b396903876775908992f32a7df6.jpeg)

May St Jezza save your soul, lest you burn in pensioner racing beige hell.  
Blessed be the trinity of Clarkson, Hammond and May.

😛

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/413 "2018-11-14T19:39:26Z")

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Right…

Why using technology of the mid 20th century if one can use technology of the early 19th century 🙂

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/414 "2018-11-14T19:41:20Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> Just let me flag myself as non pvp and make me unattackable by pvp

Ok, but then you can’t participate in any part of the economy, no mining, no market, loot from rat killing, no security status and no faction/corp standings changes.

Etc.

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/415 "2018-11-14T19:42:20Z")

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> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#):
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> Ok, but then you can’t participate in any part of the economy, no mining, no market, loot from rat killing, no security status and no faction/corp standings changes.

this is just to get rid of pvp and this is good this way…no nerfs needed

One way or another something like this will be implented in the future…because it has to…

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/416 "2018-11-14T19:44:39Z")

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On the contrary, they are hugely popular. That is unless a niche brand tries to imitate them. Then not so much.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/417 "2018-11-14T19:45:21Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> Why using technology of the mid 20th century if one can use technology of the early 19th century

Umm… there’s only about 30 years between the development of the manual and automatic transmissions. 1890’s for the manual and 1920’s for the automatic.

You might want to check your dates.

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/418 "2018-11-14T19:46:06Z")

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link it or it is not true…

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/419 "2018-11-14T19:46:14Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> this is just to get rid of pvp and this is good this way…no nerfs needed
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> One way or another something like this will be implented in the future…because it has to…

It doesn’t. You have other games for that.  
Eve does just fine as a fulltime pvp sandbox. Even better before pvp was nerfed.

Play on the sisi server if you must.

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/420 "2018-11-14T19:46:58Z")

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> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#):
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> It doesn’t. You have other games for that.  
> Eve does just fine as a fulltime pvp sandbox. Even better before pvp was nerfed.
> 
> Play on the sisi server if you must.

So eve dying is the solution but DO NOT DARE to change eve?

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/421 "2018-11-14T19:49:27Z")

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> **[Automatic transmission](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_transmission)**
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> An automatic transmission, also called auto, self-shifting transmission, n-speed automatic (where n is its number of forward gear ratios), or AT, is a type of motor vehicle transmission that can automatically change gear ratios as the vehicle moves, freeing the driver from having to shift gears manually. Like other transmission systems on vehicles, it allows an internal combustion engine, best suited to run at a relatively high rotational speed, to provide a range of speed and torque outputs nece...

> **[Manual transmission](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_transmission)**
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> A manual transmission, also known as a manual gearbox, a standard transmission or colloquially in some countries (e.g. the United States) as a stick shift, is a type of transmission used in motor vehicle applications. It uses a driver-operated clutch, usually engaged and disengaged by a foot pedal or hand lever, for regulating torque transfer from the engine to the transmission; and a gear selector that can be operated by hand or foot.
> A conventional 5-speed manual transmission is often the stan...

Also 27 years of knowledge gained working in the auto industry says you’re wrong. Herr Benz didn’t build what is recognised as the first car until 1885, IIRC that was a combination of a single speed belt and chain drive.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/422 "2018-11-14T19:49:38Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> So eve dying is the solution but DO NOT DARE to change eve?

Strawman.

Do not sell out your core playerbase for the whims of people who will never play this game for long.

Plenty of pvp’rs are asking for changes to the game.

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/423 "2018-11-14T19:50:58Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> So eve dying is the solution but DO NOT DARE to change eve?

You should read the old old forums, not the old forums, the old old forums.

Everything you say, has been said before.

They are gone, we are still here.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/424 "2018-11-14T19:53:15Z")

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This game will soon be bots selling to bots. Bots buying bot made stuff. Bots fighting in bot declared wars.

This on top of the bots now scamming, mining, ganking, running missions, etc.

Does CCP care?

No. Of course not. Doesn’t hurt their bottom line. For every player that quits in disgust over what this game has become, a new bot acct is made to keep the PCU up and the perceived value of this property artificially inflated.

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/425 "2018-11-14T20:01:13Z")

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They don’t even investigate bots!!! Those 4-5k bannings each quarter(?) are just random accounts they ban for show!!!

/s 🙄

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