# EVE Is Dangerous. Yeah Right **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 27, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190 "2018-10-27T06:01:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/446 "2018-11-15T22:30:52Z")
> [@Mortlake](#): > > Astounding, isn’t it? You couldn’t make this ■■■■ up. completly wrong apporach but must be conviiniend to persuade this to yourself ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/447 "2018-11-15T22:31:14Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > It’s the game of many and most of them are annoyed by PVP… Citation needed, I know many “PvE” biased players that are quite happy with PvP in hisec. It creates demand for raw materials, components, and finished products that would otherwise (in your ideal world) exist only outside of hisec. It also makes the game interesting for them, planning ahead, social networking, banter, they’re all part of the game to them. You on the other hand, just want somewhere to watch the isk counter climb without any of the risk. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/e/3e2860c48cad0f4c7d6b151e9dc838c4280ccff4.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/448 "2018-11-15T22:33:12Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > YOU(PVP) ROFL, try 0 kills and 6 losses, to NPC’s. > **[Jonah Gravenstein | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/90810822/)** > > Jonah Gravenstein: 0 ships destroyed and 0 ships lost. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/449 "2018-11-15T22:33:36Z")
> [@Mortlake](#): > > He doesn’t lift, bro. He’s PVE all the way. > > Generalizing is for knobs m8. > > What are you not getting? Have you tried listening and reading instead of typing? It really helps when debating. There is no debate with selfish people that simply want to cement a current status because they would otherwise have to adapt to a new situation…this is what most PVP’ers are and you know it… ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/450 "2018-11-15T22:34:24Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > There is no debate with selfish peopl Hi pot, I’d like to introduce you to kettle. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/451 "2018-11-15T22:34:27Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > There is no debate with selfish people So stop talking? Clearly you’re part of the problem. Actually you’re most of it. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/452 "2018-11-15T22:34:47Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > > YOU(PVP) > > ROFL, try 0 kills and 6 losses, to NPC’s. > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/0/4/4046edff25311151d909f26deca17e38536d46a3.png) [zkillboard.com](https://zkillboard.com/character/90810822/) > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/c/dc339aa86d6b365740916bb1fa561d6b4610de13.jpeg) > > ### [Jonah Gravenstein | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/90810822/) > > Jonah Gravenstein: 0 ships destroyed and 0 ships lost. This is in no way relevant… ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/453 "2018-11-15T22:35:11Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > This is in no way relevant… I want to give up on you. But I won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/454 "2018-11-15T22:35:46Z")
> [@Mortlake](#): > > So stop talking? Clearly you’re part of the problem. Actually you’re most of it. me beeing selfish just in demanding a safe spot and let PVE live? selfish would be to demand that all PVP would be made impossible… ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/455 "2018-11-15T22:36:28Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > let PVE live Cheers mate. Appreciate that. Thanks. Very generous. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/456 "2018-11-15T22:36:57Z")
> [@Mortlake](#): > > Cheers mate. Appreciate that. Thanks. Very generous. you aren’t THAT stupid are you? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/457 "2018-11-15T22:37:16Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > my whole existence is about a safe spot for all those that DON’T WANT PVP Exactly. You want CCP to nanny a certain playstyle, by providing somewhere where the major defining point of a PvP game like Eve, the PvP, is removed. Irony indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/458 "2018-11-15T22:37:30Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > you aren’t THAT stupid are you? Your arrogance is affecting me more than I initially expected. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/459 "2018-11-15T22:38:11Z")
I am with Mortlake on this and am so shocked at the pve community how rude! ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/460 "2018-11-15T22:38:47Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > me beeing selfish just in demanding a safe spot and let PVE live? No, it’s selfish trying to change the underlying base that the game is built on. You’re literally trying to make Eve the opposite of what it was always intended to be. There was never supposed to be a safe place. That’s why there isn’t a safe place, and that’s why there never will be a safe place. Although, Balos, I have a bit of good news for you. Rookie systems are safe. Literally. Ganking is prohibited in those systems. So go do your risk free pve there. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/461 "2018-11-15T22:39:08Z")
So it’s selfish for a PVE guy that has clearly no space to hide from PVP to demand a portion of space from PVP that have clearly ALL of the space? Because PVP has all the space and has to let some go? Really? Intersting definition of selfishness… ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/462 "2018-11-15T22:39:52Z")
> [@Sol\_epoch](#): > > shocked at the pve community Considering I’m also a part of it, it makes me feel quite dirty to think there are those of us that feel like he does. Those with such a disturbing lack of foresight and empathy that they would stop at nothing to see this beautiful game turned into a cold and desolate wasteland. I won’t have it, I tell you. I simply won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/463 "2018-11-15T22:40:08Z")
Why not, you addressed me assuming that I am a PvP’er. I am not, and I’m well known as not being one. I am an industrialist, trader and mission runner, amongst other things. I don’t shoot people in the face, I sell them replacement stuff and shoot them in the wallet. Your platform for what would effectively be a “trammel” shard ruins my bloody gameplay too. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/464 "2018-11-15T22:42:33Z")
Look out, his alt’s logged in. ---
**Author:** ![Noctis\_Nellie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noctis_nellie/32/106423_2.png) [@Noctis\_Nellie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noctis_Nellie)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/465 "2018-11-15T22:42:43Z")
I think Balos makes some valid points. Just throwing that out there, forum assassination not warranted. I don’t pvp either. Where is Veers he still around or has he left due to all the ridicule he used to get? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190.md?page=22) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190.md?page=24)