# EVE Is Dangerous. Yeah Right

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 27, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190 "2018-10-27T06:01:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/486 "2018-11-15T22:57:29Z")

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> [@Sol\_epoch](#):
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> millenial chars

Sadly entitlement is endemic in millenials.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/487 "2018-11-15T22:58:08Z")

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> [@Mortlake](#):
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> advice being offered in there by people like yourself

The blind leading the blind springs to mind.

It must be like having quantum physics explained to you by a dog.

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/488 "2018-11-15T22:58:39Z")

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> [@Mortlake](#):
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> I practically lived there for many years, because the advice being offered in there by people like yourself was likely to result in boredom and burnout in short order. I want this game to live, you don’t.

Right…

I want this game to die because i want to change it…

This is this armageddon talk i cannot understand …WHY?

The game would simply be altered not destroyed…it would be another game yeah,but still eve,not quite the eve you know for 15 years but if the effect would be more players…why not take it and try it out?

Do you REALLY think this game in its current status will last another 15 years?

So why not try things that maxbe save it?

This dogmatic opposition is something that really bothers me…

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/489 "2018-11-15T22:58:46Z")

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Defence is an option! but not seeing your point with a KB like this [https://zkillboard.com/character/2114308158/](https://zkillboard.com/character/2114308158/) Or why you are moaning!

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/490 "2018-11-15T22:59:14Z")

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Agreed!

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**Author:** ![Noctis\_Nellie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noctis_nellie/32/106423_2.png) [@Noctis\_Nellie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noctis_Nellie)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/491 "2018-11-15T22:59:18Z")

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I am not a millenial in any way shape or form, just thought I should clear that up before you build a concept of me that err’s on weird side.

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/492 "2018-11-15T23:01:01Z")

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Please advise your vision of what you see as the way eve should be!

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/493 "2018-11-15T23:01:19Z")

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Depends what you’re doing, if you’re hauling, some of the T1 industrials can align like a cruiser and pack a substantial tank into the bargain. Keep the cargo under 50-100 mill and no-one is even going to try; not when there’s idiots with eleventy billion in the hold and a full rack of cargo extenders.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/494 "2018-11-15T23:02:18Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> dogmatic

Irony, again.

Much more and I’ll be opening an irony mine.

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/495 "2018-11-15T23:02:23Z")

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Jonah giving advice freely as usual! Such a charmer!

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/496 "2018-11-15T23:05:03Z")

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lol I like the idiots, it gives some of us a form of herd immunity; by not being them.

Kinda mercenary I know, but this is Eve and I have to do something to honour the Machiavellian Space Bastards name.

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**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/497 "2018-11-15T23:05:16Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> Do you REALLY think this game in its current status will last another 15 years?

All we can really say is that it’ll die a lot sooner if you got your way.

Altering it in the way you want it altered would destroy one of the core tenants of this game: Nowhere is safe.

This is literally, as described by the developers, a core tenant of the game. You want them to abandon that because you don’t like it. The rest of us play this game because of this core tenant.

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/498 "2018-11-15T23:06:07Z")

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Wow the fortune teller in your local subway must be really good if you be so sure about eve dying if PVP in high would be gone…

Did he sell you those healing crystals too?

They are good 🙂

You cannot actually KNOW if something works UNTIL you tried it…there is no certainty.

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/499 "2018-11-15T23:06:07Z")

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Good post and well said!

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/500 "2018-11-15T23:07:28Z")

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Ummm! think you got that a bit wrong!

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/501 "2018-11-15T23:08:18Z")

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I hope you are well, Sol. We haven’t verbally bounced off one another in a while. I keep forgetting you’re just up the road from me.

Anyway, back on topic.

> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> Do you REALLY think this game in its current status will last another 15 years?

Not in it’s current status, no. I also don’t feel that the promotion of less engaging playstyles is the way forward.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/502 "2018-11-15T23:08:56Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> Wow th fortune teller in your local subway must be really good if you be so sure about eve dying if PVP in high would be gone…

The same could be said of yours, given that you’re so certain of “nerf PvP and they will come”.

The irony mine is now open folks, pickaxes and shovels are available for hire at the entrance for a nominal fee.

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**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/503 "2018-11-15T23:09:45Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> Wow the fortune teller in your local subway must be really good if you be so sure about eve dying if PVP in high would be gone…

It’s ironic that you very clearly state that you believe Eve will die within 15 years “if it stays the way it is”… and then proceed to accuse one of attempting to predict the future.

Pure hypocrisy.

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/504 "2018-11-15T23:10:13Z")

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Yes I am well and love reading your posts, I think the days are gone where we could have a meaningfull discorse here and in game!

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/505 "2018-11-15T23:10:48Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> The same could be said of yours, given that you’re so certain of “nerf PvP and they will come”.
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> The irony mine is now open folks, pickaxes and shovels are available for hire at the entrance for a nominal fee.

Fact is the current status has to be changed for good…

Carrying on will only lead to slow decay…

Why am i sure?

Look around…nanny games prosper and unforgiving games perish…  
Tthere is no more proof needed

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