# EVE Is Dangerous. Yeah Right

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 27, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190 "2018-10-27T06:01:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/506 "2018-11-15T23:11:43Z")

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Are you not part of that decay from the core principles of the game?

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/507 "2018-11-15T23:12:16Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> Fact is the current status has to be changed for good…
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> Carrying on will only lead to slow decay…

Opinion. Not fact.

Learn the bloody difference; you’ve been told what it is often enough.

And yes I am a pedant about it.

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/508 "2018-11-15T23:12:45Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> Carrying on will only lead to slow decay…

Implementing what you want will allow for a much quicker decline, which I guess you could see as merciful, but sitting there looking at that mountain of isk you’ve made the night before the server gets shut down is going to be a bit of a kick in the gut.

I’d rather have fun, thanks.

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/509 "2018-11-15T23:13:00Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Opinion. Not fact.
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> Learn the bloody difference; you’ve been told what it is often enough.

like you “knowing” that no PVP in high will “kill eve”?

Same medicine…

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/510 "2018-11-15T23:13:45Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> like you “knowing” that no PVP in high will “kill eve”?
> 
> Same medicine…

I’ve presented my views as opinion, not fact.

Try harder.

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/511 "2018-11-15T23:14:53Z")

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The end of eve with no PVP in high is sold as fact…

Simply read the posts…

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/512 "2018-11-15T23:15:23Z")

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Please link that fact!

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**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/513 "2018-11-15T23:15:39Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> nanny games prosper

Are you ■■■■■■■ shitting me? Were a list of PVE MMOs compiled, you would see a staggaring majority of them either dead, or in a zombie state. Why? Because they’re **boring.**

Eve, otoh, has been around for 15 years (well above the average life expectancy for any game) and still has active subscribers and active development.

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/514 "2018-11-15T23:16:19Z")

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Genuine question.

Would you be prepared to have the changes you want implemented if the rewards for all hisec PVE activity were reduced by 75%?

There has to be a trade off for safety, right? I don’t believe the removal of wardecs (kinda) or ganking really cuts it.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/515 "2018-11-15T23:18:36Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> The end of eve with no PVP in high is sold as fact…

Echoing you, links or it didn’t happen…

> Simply read the posts…

I have read them, thanks.

Certainly some may come across that way, but by far the most prolific, and uniformed poster who presents their opinion as fact…

**Is You.**

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/516 "2018-11-15T23:20:51Z")

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Just a question! is this your main?  
Underscores in names to me say Kiddy!

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/517 "2018-11-15T23:22:21Z")

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Oh I’m harmless. Just a silly old bear.

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/518 "2018-11-15T23:23:57Z")

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And I am just too old to care anymore!

In fact maybe I should go to bed and let the millenials fight it out!

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/519 "2018-11-15T23:26:55Z")

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> [@Sol\_epoch](#):
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> Underscores in names to me say Kiddy!

That’s the forum being dumb, replies, quotes and @'s all end up with an underscore.

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/520 "2018-11-15T23:27:58Z")

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Oh! right, See told you I was too old for this shenanigans!

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/521 "2018-11-15T23:28:53Z")

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You’re never too old for shenanigans, I plan on growing old _very_ disgracefully.

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/522 "2018-11-15T23:29:56Z")

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Been there done that and now all I say is they can’t shoot me or make me pregnant so no worrys!

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/523 "2018-11-16T00:49:12Z")

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You’ve been getting what you want for 6 years. It has never lead to more people playing the game. It has only achieved the exact opposite.

From the moment it started it did the opposite of what you said it should. And every continuation down that road has sent the game further in the opposite direction you said it should.

There is not one instance where making the game safer has corresponded with an increase in the game’s activity. Not ONE.

Everything points the other way.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/524 "2018-11-16T07:59:03Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> a safe spot

You grave is the only real safe spot.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/525 "2018-11-16T08:05:16Z")

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> [@Mortlake](#):
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> Watching local is hard, remember?

Need a brain to perform security checks, not accessible to braindead bears.

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