# EVE Is Dangerous. Yeah Right **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 27, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190 "2018-10-27T06:01:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/586 "2018-11-17T16:47:47Z")
> [@Noctis\_Nellie](#): > > Pve has suffered nerfs Drones used to be excellent salvage, not anymore. Salvaging nerfed big time. You must be devastated. ---
**Author:** ![Abib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abib/32/162001_2.png) [@Abib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abib)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/587 "2018-11-17T16:50:53Z")
> [@Noctis\_Nellie](#): > > Salvaging nerfed big time. So you’re complaining that a drone introduced to allow you to be AFK is now not as effective? Case closed. Pub anyone? I’m buying. ---
**Author:** ![Noctis\_Nellie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noctis_nellie/32/106423_2.png) [@Noctis\_Nellie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noctis_Nellie)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/588 "2018-11-17T16:53:18Z")
No I’m saying that once shot, drone wrecks in missions used to give good salvage, its been nerfed. After answering a statement saying that pve has never been nerfed in high-sec. Maybe you should not be so quick to judge. ---
**Author:** ![Abib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abib/32/162001_2.png) [@Abib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abib)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/589 "2018-11-17T16:55:15Z")
> [@Noctis\_Nellie](#): > > Maybe you should not be so quick to judge. Or perhaps you should be more grateful. ---
**Author:** ![Noctis\_Nellie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noctis_nellie/32/106423_2.png) [@Noctis\_Nellie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noctis_Nellie)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/590 "2018-11-17T16:58:55Z")
I find you to be a touch on the rude side. Maybe you should go to the pub, cool down a bit maybe? Anyway I have to go fly safe all o7 Its always nice chatting even though we do not agree and are on opposite sides. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Alharazaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omar_alharazaad/32/253881_2.png) [@Omar\_Alharazaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omar_Alharazaad)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/591 "2018-11-17T17:01:18Z")
PVE has been nerfed a few times in the name of balance. Once upon a time there was this ‘gun mining’ thing when you did drone missions for the LOOT, which was alloys and minerals that could be reprocessed into components that were normally only found in low or null sec. They took it away to give industrialists some reason to delve into the deep dark instead of just hanging out in high… kind of like the whole escalation thing that they added to sites. Let’s keep things in perspective, however, EVE’s PVE experience has always been pretty lackluster. It’s suffered a few nerfs here and there for various reasons. PVP in high sec has been hounded relentlessly by the screamy bears who desire nothing less than complete safety in it for over a decade. The result has been incremental but continuous nerfs to high sec pvp gameplay over the years. Some of it intentional, some of it incidental. Ultimately the result is that high sec is now safer than it ever has been before. It was already pretty safe to start with. There’s no call for making it safer than it is now. You literally only have to take a step to the left or right and have your eyes open in order to not die in high sec now. Which is why the only reasonable answer to calls for more safety in this sector is scorn. If you can’t handle high now, then you are playing the wrong game. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/592 "2018-11-17T17:04:50Z")
I said “continual nerfs”. Entire subsets of hisec PvP have been annihilated or rendered mechanically impotent, on the other hand you can still salvage. Gun mining and drone poo were OP as hell anyway in terms of reward. Don’t confuse me for a PvP player, I am not. I’ve had CCP nerf my hisec activites more than once; but on the whole, hisec PvE has not suffered the rod when compared to the beating hisec PvP has suffered. ---
**Author:** ![Abib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abib/32/162001_2.png) [@Abib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abib)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/593 "2018-11-17T17:06:15Z")
> [@Noctis\_Nellie](#): > > I find you to be a touch on the rude side. Sorry. I tend to get a little direct if people are spouting nonsense. No offence intended. ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/594 "2018-11-17T17:12:41Z")
last time i saw ccp brag about numbers, 200-300k i think with the reason for 30k on the server logged in is “the players have managed to spread themselves out across all timezones” lol ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/595 "2018-11-17T17:42:36Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > yes, Babylon 5. Cpt Sherridan. In fact it is a vorlon quote…🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/596 "2018-11-17T17:46:54Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > Actually there is in EvE, > If you come into where I live, and always cherry pick a certain type of ore, or something else in that nature, and my corpies complain about it…cause you are stealing their income. > > and its not possible to wardec you, or you drop to npc if I did…then YES, I have the absolute right to GANK you, cause in EvE its called Defending your space, or resources/income/ or assets… > > So really get off your soap box and go play a different game cause EvE is clearly not for you. In high you haven’t any right because it’s not YOUR space it’s the space of EVERYONE. If you want something like this take a spot in 0.0 and if not eve should throw you out of the game for harrasment…THIS is what should happen to people that call parts of high “their property”… ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/597 "2018-11-17T17:50:48Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > In high you haven’t any right because it’s not YOUR space it’s the space of EVERYONE. You don’t have any right to a safe area by the exact same logic. ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Kalfren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eric_kalfren/32/110261_2.png) [@Eric\_Kalfren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eric_Kalfren)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/598 "2018-11-17T17:52:06Z")
> [@Abib](#): > > Pub anyone? I’m buying. Yeah let’s go ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/599 "2018-11-17T17:52:17Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > You don’t have any right to a safe area by the exact same logic. I have because “high” is called “area protected by concord” but isn’t in fact…so it has to be and should be… I’m simply calling the same rights PVP takes for 15 years… ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/600 "2018-11-17T17:53:57Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > “area protected by concord” CONCORD is just shitty organization that keeps status quo unobstructed – doesn’t matter to them if millions of matari slaves are killed by Amarr… DOWN WITH CONCORD! ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/601 "2018-11-17T17:54:05Z")
Wrong. I suggest that you do some reading. Concord are not in the business of protection, they are in the business of punishment. They react to crime, they do not protect people from it. It’s also possible to shoot you in the face without a wardec or committing a crime that incurs a Concord response. ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/602 "2018-11-17T17:54:16Z")
It is protected as much as the real world is protected by the police. If someone decides to stab you on the street, they can only catch the offender after the fact. Just as concord destroys the ship after a criminal act has been taken place. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Alharazaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omar_alharazaad/32/253881_2.png) [@Omar\_Alharazaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omar_Alharazaad)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/603 "2018-11-17T17:55:08Z")
Explosions From: Omar Alharazaad Sent: 2018.11.17 17:53 To: Tertia Quinte, Dearest Tertia, how fare thee? I do hope that you’re dealing well with the loss of Kill: Tertia Quinte (Harbinger Navy Issue) and Kill: Tertia Quinte (Capsule). It was a very invigorating fight, and you nearly had me at the first there. Unfortunately MWD’s eat capacitor like nothing else and when you failed to destroy me before that ran out the deal was pretty much sealed from there. I want you to know it wasn’t anything personal. Your explosion and subsequent podding was/were politically motivated. There seems to be a very vocal minority on the EVE forums preaching for total safety in high security space. That’s right, they want nothing less than complete safety for all pilots in the empire controlled regions of New Eden. As you were so eager to attempt to destroy me I can only assume that you disagree with this absurd notion. The leader of this idiotic movement is none other than one Balos Tritapo. As he’s so zealous in his crusade against all things pew, I’m certain that he’d be more than willing to reimburse you for the loss you’ve incurred. I do strongly recommend contacting him so that you may be recompensed for that which was lost. Fly safe. Much love, Omar Alharazaad. > **[Harbinger Navy Issue | Tertia Quinte | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/73521398/)** > > Tertia Quinte (Imperial Academy) lost their Harbinger Navy Issue in Penirgman (Domain). Final Blow by Omar Alharazaad (An Interesting Corp) flying in a Ishkur. Total Value: 762,742,586.60 ISK > **[Capsule | Tertia Quinte | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/73521402/)** > > Tertia Quinte (Imperial Academy) lost their Capsule in Penirgman (Domain) Total Value: 78,671,793.17 ISK ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/604 "2018-11-17T17:56:45Z")
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**Author:** ![Omar\_Alharazaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omar_alharazaad/32/253881_2.png) [@Omar\_Alharazaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omar_Alharazaad)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/605 "2018-11-17T17:56:48Z")
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