# EVE Is Dangerous. Yeah Right **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 27, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190 "2018-10-27T06:01:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/61 "2018-10-30T11:31:30Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > Back on topic, Eve echoes are primary product now because of size of Asian mobile market. Eve Online will have to follow the lead and adopt to it because of Serenity. At the end of the day Tranquility will follow Serenity. 😊 And those said fanboys will ragequit…but do they really count? I guess not. Life is too short to rage over those changes…simply accept them or go…it’s not worth it. But some people even have to tell the world if they block someone ingame…so those changes will not happen without arguing ingame and the forum and not without tons of salt… ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/62 "2018-10-30T14:34:51Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > And knowing this and seeing still seeing no need for a change is called stubborn You conflate the Eve playerbase with the broader playerbase. As I said earlier, Eve is a niche game. It appeals to the people that games like WoW do not appeal to. If they change, they lose that niche and along with it, their remaining players. There’s a very real reason that WoW clones all die. Care to guess what it is? They try to fit WoW’s market; when WoW already has that market cornered. Eve has survived for 15 years by having its own market. Smaller it may be, but it’s all ours. > [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > JUST not in high… You have to be trying to be obstinate. Surely by now, through all of the stuff that CCP has directly said, you cannot believe that HS should be safe space. > [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > this is more than reasonable. > [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > Typical “change is bad because it would change MY game and MY playstyle” statement. No, it’s not reasonable. It’s quite against what the developers intend for the game, asserted both in clear design intent and in clear quotes by CCP devs over the many years. Bye bye, have a nice life. Go play on a PVE server in some other game. ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/63 "2018-10-30T14:51:23Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > You conflate the Eve playerbase with the broader playerbase. As I said earlier, Eve is a niche game. You really think that PA will not try to expand the player base because Old\_Pervert says it. The basic rule of every business is that it has to be expanded, the CCP has been unsuccessful in that and has gone broke and has therefore been sold. There are currently millions of MMO players in the world and it is realistic to expect that PA will try to attract as many as possible to Eve Online. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Alharazaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omar_alharazaad/32/253881_2.png) [@Omar\_Alharazaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omar_Alharazaad)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/64 "2018-10-30T15:14:04Z")
Personally, I think you’re dreaming… and far too eager to blow smoke up the arses of the new Korean overlords. If you get what you want, you will actually accomplish something that nobody’s managed to do in the last fifteen years, actually kill EVE. I’ve actually seen this kind of crap happen in RL. A local taxi company decided that because his cabs were non-smoking that all other cabs in town should be as well. He lobbied like hell to make it happen, and eventually got his way. BIg claps on the back for bringing the rest of the market in line with his progressive ideals. He went out of business six months later. Turns out the ONLY reason people were using his cabs were that they were smoke-free. Did a public minecraft server die and all of it’s derps come flooding over here or something? ---
**Author:** ![Complex\_Math](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/complex_math/32/378387_2.png) [@Complex\_Math](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Complex_Math)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/65 "2018-10-30T15:33:53Z")
I understand that some people want to play in a PvP free environment, but there are so many other games out there offering a “PvE only” experience. Why not play one of those games? Eve Online is the most popular game (that I’m aware of) that actually has PvP everywhere + non PvP gameplay mechanics - mixed together in one game. If someone can name another game that accomplishes this - please let me know, and I’ll check it out. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/66 "2018-10-30T15:51:31Z")
They are just trolls who want to ruin the game, they don’t even play. ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/67 "2018-10-30T15:56:26Z")
> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#): > > They are just trolls who want to ruin the game, they don’t even play. We will play when we got proper enviroment. One who want dangerous Eve will have part of universe and PVP arena is coming soon. For us, peaceful, will be the another part of universe. This will be the best solution, everyone will have their part of universe and we will not have to interfere. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/68 "2018-10-30T16:01:18Z")
you want a peacefull hisec, but you will reject what it takes to create a peacefull hisec. No more player structures and pocos, the end of hauling corps with safe hauling, market prices crash due to lack of destruction and null entities manipulations and more and more… ---
**Author:** ![Complex\_Math](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/complex_math/32/378387_2.png) [@Complex\_Math](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Complex_Math)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/69 "2018-10-30T16:03:27Z")
You should check out world of Warcraft. It’s a larger player base, and seems to offer exactly what you want. There an actual PvP flag or button, so you can set it to remove yourself from PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/70 "2018-10-30T16:05:44Z")
> [@Complex\_Math](#): > > You should check out world of Warcraft. It’s a larger player base, and seems to offer exactly what you want. There an actual PvP flag or button, so you can set it to remove yourself from PvP. Currently playing Black Dessert Online, and when EVE becomes similar to BDO then I will renew my Eve Subscription. ---
**Author:** ![Complex\_Math](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/complex_math/32/378387_2.png) [@Complex\_Math](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Complex_Math)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/71 "2018-10-30T16:07:21Z")
That sounds like a good plan. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/72 "2018-10-30T16:11:11Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > No, it’s not reasonable. It’s quite against what the developers intend for the game, asserted both in clear design intent and in clear quotes by CCP devs over the many years. We know this…but this is not about the past,it’s about the NOW and the FUTURE. The conclusion you draw that all will stay as it is is in no form resonable… ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/73 "2018-10-30T16:13:49Z")
> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#): > > They are just trolls who want to ruin the game, they don’t even play. Not THE game…just a game where PVP can force its playstyle on others everywhere they want… ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/74 "2018-10-30T16:14:45Z")
> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#): > > you want a peacefull hisec, but you will reject what it takes to create a peacefull hisec. No more player structures and pocos, the end of hauling corps with safe hauling, market prices crash due to lack of destruction and null entities manipulations and more and more… Because change is bad? ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/75 "2018-10-30T16:15:39Z")
> [@Complex\_Math](#): > > You should check out world of Warcraft. It’s a larger player base, and seems to offer exactly what you want. There an actual PvP flag or button, so you can set it to remove yourself from PvP. And exactly this is what eve has to become ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/76 "2018-10-30T16:16:04Z")
Absolutely not. But sometimes when you try to make the world better, you only make it worse. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/77 "2018-10-30T16:18:35Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > And exactly this is what eve has to become Oh! so you want to force your will onto others… hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/78 "2018-10-30T16:19:19Z")
> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#): > > Absolutely not. But sometimes when you try to make the world better, you only make it worse. Because the fortune tellers told you so? You can’t see what will happen because it was never tried…maybe your right maybe you’re wrong but not changing anything for the fear it could go wrong is -i said it before.-simply mixing concrete to cover the fear of change with it. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/79 "2018-10-30T16:20:53Z")
> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#): > > Oh! so you want to force your will onto others… hypocrite. Read my posts…i don’t want to kill pvp comepletly…just move it into low and 0.0 and both side sanctioned PVP would still be possible in high even under my agenda ,just let BOTH sides agree to it(like in duels) ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190/80 "2018-10-30T16:22:35Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > just let BOTH sides agree to it. You are too naive to see how this will be corrupted by the big guys. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dangerous-yeah-right/116190.md?page=5)