# Eve is dying storyline **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 25, 2020, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409 "2020-06-25T09:58:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/21 "2020-06-25T17:19:04Z")
EVE won’t shut down because we would likely see some kind of agreement for community administration, because it’s **really** unlikely that this game will ever be so unpopular that there aren’t thousands, if not _tens_ of thousands, of people willing to contribute to keep the game alive. Something like this can’t really “die” so late after the fact. Games like EVE and WoW are at this point institutions, similar to some older MMOs that are still alive and thriving. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/22 "2020-06-25T17:19:59Z")
I wish I could believe as you do. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/23 "2020-06-25T17:27:35Z")
Barring catastrophic natural disasters and/or social collapse, I don’t see why not. EVE will _always_ have thousands of players. Maybe at some point it won’t have six-digit active accounts, but there will always be enough people playing to make it a viable business venture for someone, even if it means downsizing the team and working mostly in admin mode only, as opposed to creating new content. Unless, once again, they do something _really_ stupid and catastrophic, such as making the game much safer (e.g. removing all PvP from high-sec) or effectively deleting the accumulated work and assets of long-time inactive players by reverting old-time rules and agreements on the fly without much warning. Such things could possibly be recovered from by reverting the game to an older state, though. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/24 "2020-06-25T17:29:29Z")
you think they’re going to keep Eve going once it drops sub 10k players? “The subscriber number on the chart is 300,000 for that while the average concurrent users number is **47,000**. That gives us a ratio of **6.38** to 1 and a possible user base of **210,638 players**.27 Aug 2018” (source: some internet site) Well, if it reaches 5 digits or less I imagine it’s plug pulling time ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/25 "2020-06-25T17:32:58Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > effectively deleting the accumulated work and assets of long-time inactive players by reverting old-time rules and agreements on the fly without much warning. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/26 "2020-06-25T17:48:17Z")
> [@Zoiie](#): > > Well, if it reaches 5 digits or less I imagine it’s plug pulling time Then you’re not really familiar with the gaming industry. It only starts becoming dangerous when there are so few players, that the income from them can’t sustain basic maintenance. And even then, EVE, being what it is, will be able to attract angel investors and community bailout funding. They’re not just going to “pull the plug” on it. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/27 "2020-06-25T17:50:25Z")
well, that time is coming… the chart is falling ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/28 "2020-06-25T17:57:11Z")
Meaningless in itself. Charts rise and fall all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/29 "2020-06-25T17:58:52Z")
So just a slow death of in-game store milking, like Firefall did, and not an end of game event or theme for shutting doors? Just some sad announcement and pfft? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/30 "2020-06-25T18:19:53Z")
If anything, yes, and then shortly after that it will probably be acquired by someone else and reopened in a different capacity. The only way EVE can be permanently shut down is if no one wants to play it anymore, and achieving that would require downright pathologically psychopathic mismanagement. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Boots](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/richard_boots/32/215166_2.png) [@Richard\_Boots](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Richard_Boots)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/31 "2020-06-25T18:22:56Z")
They just need to shut it down… DEFUND EVE ONLINE!!! SHUT IT DOWN!!! Its just a big scam anyways; CCP don’t give a ■■■■ about the game anymore… just a cheap vending machine of space themed crap… its time to shut down… I mean EVE was about like… whats coming next… what new thing to do… new projects and activities… Now its just… what controversial UNWANTED NERF can we look forward too… OH WHATS THIS, SHAMELESS MICRO TRANSACTION PLUG??? … hmmm how nice… Probably just make some cheap ass pay to win mobile game and be like… New Eden got sucked into a worm hole… and its now in Mobile Game MMO Land… capsulers are now linked via cell phone to concords secret clone database in Mobile MMO Land… good luck! Welp I guess its time to play a game I enjoy… ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/32 "2020-06-25T18:23:08Z")
I think you should look into what has happened to all the other (once popular) MMOs. They do close down, even when people still exist who want to play them. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/33 "2020-06-25T18:25:17Z")
I don’t care it’s not really relevent to the topic, the topic was is there any kind of storyline or event planned when it does come? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/34 "2020-06-25T18:30:04Z")
What did CCP do when Dust closed down? ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/35 "2020-06-25T18:32:26Z")
Didn’t they sell it? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/36 "2020-06-25T18:35:14Z")
Maybe Chribba can buy Eve Online when the time comes. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/37 "2020-06-25T18:56:01Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > I think you should look into what has happened to all the other (once popular) MMOs. They do close down, even when people still exist who want to play them. Barring licensing issues, though? Some games close down because they can’t sustain them any longer, but also don’t want to sell their IPs to someone else. > [@Xeux](#): > > What did CCP do when Dust closed down? Dust wasn’t their flagship product, and they didn’t really take it seriously. The irony being that if it was on PC, it would actually be pretty popular (look how well Planetside 2 is doing). ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/38 "2020-06-25T18:56:17Z")
In the event that EvE **does** shut down, CCP has a storyline for that which has been running since before the game launched; it’s called [the Prophecy of Macaper](https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/the-prophecy-of-macaper/). CCP [quoted the fifth event](https://now.eveonline.com/post/109490798348/the-little-brother-makes-the-final-sorrowful) when they teased the Drifters’ weapons, which indicates we have two events left before the in-universe apocalypse: “what was many now becomes one when one becomes four” and the “return of the dark light from the heart of the mother”. There’s speculation that the former refers to _Dust 514_ in some way, and the latter might refer to the EVE Gate reopening and the Terrans coming through or the Triglavians darkening suns, but there’s no real way for us to know until CCP tells us. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/39 "2020-06-25T21:00:21Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > The irony being that if it was on PC, it would actually be pretty popular (look how well Planetside 2 is doing). yah im a firm believer that if dust was on pc and not a console exclusive (dumb move) it would be alive and well with a niche but faithful following ---
**Author:** ![Chococat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chococat/32/285157_2.png) [@Chococat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chococat)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409/40 "2020-06-25T21:30:49Z")
> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > You think it’s not? > > Proof us wrong… > > The game is outdated and cannot affort to loose 95% of all noobs during the first month… > > It’s a niche game and such losses are fatal… > > Give those noobs what they want (complete safety in high) and we can talk again…but if not game over… People have been saying what you are saying since at least a year after the game launched, user numbers rise and fall like the tide but the game is still going. Some new players stay, some don’t. Eve isn’t for everyone. It shouldn’t be for everyone, it’s niche. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-dying-storyline/251409.md?page=3)