# Eve is Multiboxing 2 win - a new player experience **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 12, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368 "2023-09-12T14:05:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/41 "2023-09-12T21:47:51Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > But things are not either/or options in Eve. Yes they are. You are either in an alliance, or you are not. EvE is either P2W, or not. You either flying a battleship at a given instance, or you are not. Your main is either in Jita, or it is not. You either have 20 bil isk, or you do not. You either build providences or you do not. Your main is either in high sec, or it is not. You either agree with ganking, or you do not. You either accept @Aiko_Danuja as the saviorette of highsec and all of New Eden, or you do not. EvE is very either/or. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/42 "2023-09-12T21:58:35Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Yes they are. Really ? > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > You are either in an alliance, or you are not. I have one account in an alliance and one account not in an alliance. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Your main is either in Jita, or it is not. I have two ‘mains’. One is based in Oipo and the other is based in Dodixie. And so on… ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/43 "2023-09-12T22:05:17Z")
You’re mistaken and totally on copium. You’re just making that stuff up. It’s total fiction to push your misleading narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/44 "2023-09-12T22:19:06Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Multiboxers have a clear and distinct advantage over solo players Someone is always going to have an advantage, if it’s not SP it’s multiboxing, if it’s not that it’s more PLEX or more members or more experience… I don’t see the difference in those advantages. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > That clearly makes EvE pay2win. I have no problem with that. Meanwhile, the game is fun and challenging and that’s all one can expect from a corporation. Some corporations don’t even give you fun or entertainment but rip you off blind if you even give a hint of _needing_ something. I don’t ask much of CCP: keep the server going and try to squash the bugs. That’s all. ---
**Author:** ![Michelle\_Vega](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michelle_vega/32/387037_2.png) [@Michelle\_Vega](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michelle_Vega)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/45 "2023-09-12T22:31:16Z")
Pretty much every serious EVE player has a minimum of two accounts which they multibox on. Pretty much everyone I know has 3+ accounts - anything less and you will just be a lonely grinder. ProTip: PVE (or mining) you don’t need 3 screens to multibox - you can use the same screen and just swap windows. But if you are a serious PVP player then it is recommended to have a multiscreen setup. Best of luck to you! MV ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/46 "2023-09-12T22:34:26Z")
> [@Sienna\_Massilia](#): > > Someone is always going to have an advantage, And that is not fair. Everyone should be on equal grounds with everyone else. If it’s not, you get disparity between people, and those that can afford to purchase advantages over those that don’t. In fact, everyone should make the same amount in RL to prevent some people having more disposable income to purchase in game advantages. ---
**Author:** ![Cenere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cenere/32/386993_2.png) [@Cenere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cenere)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/47 "2023-09-12T23:09:42Z")
> [@Sienna\_Massilia](#): > > I have no problem with that. Meanwhile, the game is fun and challenging and that’s all one can expect from a corporation. Some corporations don’t even give you fun or entertainment but rip you off blind if you even give a hint of _needing_ something. > I don’t ask much of CCP: keep the server going and try to squash the bugs. That’s all. If you recognize that all this is true but still make it work for you, you cannot say that it should also be work for others who (rightly) want fairness and regulations. Is like passive smoke in those countries were is still allowed in close areas (I dunno if still there are), you do, is allowed but you’ve to admit is wrong. Simply wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/48 "2023-09-12T23:17:37Z")
You only get one main, not two. If you think you have two, then you have zero. You need a main! ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/49 "2023-09-12T23:28:39Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > And that is not fair. Everyone should be on equal grounds with everyone else Not happening ever. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > If it’s not, you get disparity between people, and those that can afford to purchase advantages over those that don’t That’s life. Better get used to it early. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > In fact, everyone should make the same amount in RL to prevent some people having more disposable income to purchase in game advantages Never gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/50 "2023-09-12T23:33:05Z")
> [@Sienna\_Massilia](#): > > That’s life. Better get used to it early. I think not. I think, you need to be taxed more, both in RL and in game so I don’t have to work and the government can take care of me. And while you’re slaving away earning a pay check and contributing to global warming, I’ll be busy do much more important work. Throwing tomato soup on famous works of art and super gluing my hands to the motorway to advocate for dinosaur rights. I also think a portion of your EvE isk should be taxed and given to people who can’t play as much, like me, because of our very work important advocating for dinosaur rights. What you have, should be shared equally with everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/51 "2023-09-12T23:34:37Z")
> [@Cenere](#): > > If you recognize that all this is true but still make it work for you, you cannot say that it should also be work for others who (rightly) want fairness and regulations I’m not. I don’t really bother thinking if it’s fair for others. I only know what I can live with and what’s best for me. Also, “fair” really doesn’t exist. It’s all about what you can accept. > [@Cenere](#): > > is allowed but you’ve to admit is wrong. Simply wrong I don’t have to admit it’s wrong, I have to do nothing unless dictated by a cop, a judge or at the point of a gun. ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/52 "2023-09-12T23:42:03Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > I think not. I think, you need to be taxed more, both in RL and in game so I don’t have to work and the government can take care of me Good luck with that. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > And while you’re slaving away earning a pay check and contributing to global warming, I’ll be busy do much more important work Knock yourself off, I won’t be _that_ busy at all. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Throwing tomato soup on famous works of art and super gluing my hands to the motorway to advocate for dinosaur rights That’s quite an interesting life you would have for yourself. Be careful not to get ran over by a semi. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > I also think a portion of your EvE isk should be taxed and given to people who can’t play as much, like me, because of our very work important advocating for dinosaur rights You should advocate and try to make it happen if it’s that important to you. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > What you have, should be shared equally with everyone else I will happily agree when a cop or judge orders me to.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/53 "2023-09-12T23:43:40Z")
Glad to see you playing along with me! I was channeling my inner (and quite disgusting) Marxist. Just for shits and giggles. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/54 "2023-09-12T23:48:24Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > I was channeling my inner (and quite disgusting) Marxist. Just for shits and giggles I had a feeling you were. You did give me the giggles, too… I leave the shits for someone else though 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/55 "2023-09-12T23:49:15Z")
I was seriously cringing when I wrote a number of those counter points. And thinking to myself “OMG, this is so bad!” ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/56 "2023-09-12T23:50:30Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > I was seriously cringing when I wrote a number of those counter points Sometimes we have to think up to the extremes to find a just balance. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/57 "2023-09-12T23:54:06Z")
Problem is, those weren’t that extreme. Seeing it more and more ☹ But it was fun flinging it around. Probably should get back on par with the theme of this thread tho. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/58 "2023-09-12T23:54:52Z")
I have to disagree with the whole multibox/p2w argument when it comes to EVE. Why? What exactly are you winning? A fight? Fights are never fair ever. Multibox or several players on grid or better ship fits etc. Mining? 4 multiboxed vs 4 individuals will do the same amount of isk etc. The only difference is, a multiboxer keeps all isk while the 4 split it. Fleet fights? Ill have to say i think actual players in a fleet would have the advantage(my opinion) for the fact it can be more difficult to manage multibox than individuals (could be wrong on this) So i dont see eve ever being p2w since the term “win” is subjective ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/59 "2023-09-12T23:58:23Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > So i dont see eve ever being p2w since the term “win” is subjective Thats my argument as well. There really isn’t a “winning” condition set by CCP. So what is it people are paying to win for? A personal goal? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368/60 "2023-09-13T00:03:54Z")
Been playing since 2011, never seen a winning condition ever claimed, played before the advent of omega/alpha clones (omega is NOT p2w ) Remember reading an advert that said everyone vs everyone to see who can be a bigger space asshole (paraphrasing) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-multiboxing-2-win-a-new-player-experience/420368.md?page=4)