# Eve is stuck in the past **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [July 19, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620 "2019-07-19T16:11:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/122 "2019-07-20T13:04:44Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > Jesus wept, what an idiot. You have to say that to many people recently do you? Don’t you think YOU have become the minority and those people are just talking about what this game needs? No? Well… That’s the truth… ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/123 "2019-07-20T13:06:33Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > You not answering this because you wont or you cant? > > How are we in this forum holding EvE back as you put it? We arent CCP and according to you we arent the majority. no i’m not answering to pathetic insults just spit out because someone realizes beeing the minority of backwarded people who just want to keep the status quo instead of accepting what is best for the game… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/124 "2019-07-20T13:07:10Z")
Im not insulting you. Im asking you how its our fault that what you want isnt happening? ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/125 "2019-07-20T13:09:32Z")
Well… NOW is not the future… What you are ignoring is the fact that the re-construction to casual has already started and you don’t even realize it… That’s sad…you are so inside your bubble that you fail to see what is happening… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/126 "2019-07-20T13:11:38Z")
So how are we holding it back? > [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > THIS is why people leave this game…too many bittervets that HINDER EVE’s developement to a more modern game that actually can compete in the modern mmog market… But you said we are the minority. What are we doing that is hindering EvE’s development? ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/127 "2019-07-20T13:13:07Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > But you said we are the minority. > > What are we doing that is preventing it? Whining threads like about the drifter attacks f.e… CCP has to waste resources caring about those BS because you are so annoying… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/128 "2019-07-20T13:14:10Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Whining threads like about the drifter attacks f.e… > > CCP has to waste resources caring about those BS because you are so annoying… Most people here are in favour of the Drifters, including me. But you said we are the minority, so why would CCP cater to us and not to your majority? ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/129 "2019-07-20T13:15:55Z")
Before you start complaining now that i’m not answering…yes i will leave the forum for a couple of hours now…maybe tomorrow…i have a real life you know… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/130 "2019-07-20T13:18:13Z")
So you dont actually know how we are holding the game back? ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/131 "2019-07-20T13:46:54Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > i have a real life you know… You don’t just post on forums of games you don’t like all the time? Would not have guessed that ---
**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/132 "2019-07-20T13:48:37Z")
> [@Falthis](#): > > you talk about (thousands) of players in this game. When other games adding simple things to appeal to a wider scope of people have brought in “millions” of players. what makes you think Millions of players can be done on the EVE cluster ? what makes you think Millions of players is the answer? > [@Falthis](#): > > where did you get all that stuff about changing the game with isk and crap, it dosn’t effect the game now why would it after. so you’ve never played EVE or never left the system you began in and never spoke with anyone in game. because that’s what you write like when it comes to EVE. you do come across like you know very little about the game with silly statements like the above. everything built sold and destroyed in EVE is created, collected, stolen and gathered by the players in wormwholes, high sec, low sec and null space. so your little idea of a safe place where people can earn and collect all they want with no disruption would break the fecking market, you seem to not get this. your fear of joining a corp and interacting with other players to get beyond the point you have in the past is why you’ve not progressed and never will, like all activities among humans, it’s best we do it as a group and work together, those that want to stay outside a the tribes tend to get eatin by the big bad monsters in the dark ( thousands of years of conditioning ) > [@Falthis](#): > > so worried about change you jump to conclusions that don,t exist. there is no other game on the market that changes things on a regualar basis like CCP does. did you really think creating a post like this would get any other reaction when players that have stayed longer and gained more experience in the game would read this and not tell you how it is vs your twisted view of how thing should be. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/133 "2019-07-20T14:55:05Z")
ITT: ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/134 "2019-07-20T15:18:12Z")
We keep wanting to bring new people to the game but where is the actual discussion about why they should play it? ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/137 "2019-07-20T16:23:08Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > No than the game has to change to FOR THEM So what happens when the next new player hates PvE, do they change it back? /facepalm ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/138 "2019-07-20T16:25:23Z")
> [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](#): > > We keep wanting to bring new people to the game but where is the actual discussion about why they should play it? They are fish from The River Fodder, they shouldn’t play it, god knows why they keep coming. But we dutifully fish them out, and throw them back 🤣 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/139 "2019-07-20T16:37:41Z")
> [@Falthis](#): > > After several tries, and years of “WANTING” to love eve lulwut? ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/140 "2019-07-20T17:48:05Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > So what happens when the next new player hates PvE, do they change it back? > > /facepalm Well it WOULD be a NEW player at last…all i see right NOW is a fading playerbase…so a standstill can NOT be the answer… This is just simple logic you fail to see… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/141 "2019-07-20T17:51:54Z")
Now that you are back, are you able answer the question? Would you like me to repeat it? ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/142 "2019-07-20T17:56:06Z")
Drifters? You mean the PVE content you whine about doing it because you were spoiled so much by ccp in the recent years that you mislearned to actually WORK for your money? Is that a proving point for you? WOW… The EVE PROFESSIONALS whining about PVE content that hinders them to continue their blue blob we are all good friends here so we can make tons of money paradise… Very clever to mention that…very very clever… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/143 "2019-07-20T17:58:30Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > You mean the PVE content you whine about doing it because you were spoiled so much by ccp in the recent years that you mislearned to actually WORK for your money? Again let me remind you that; > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Most people here are in favour of the Drifters, including me. So I ask again; in what way, as you stated above, are we who oppose your view with a minority, making CCP do anything? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620.md?page=8)