# Eve is stuck in the past **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [July 19, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620 "2019-07-19T16:11:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/164 "2019-07-22T09:07:28Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Change…is…not…bad… Tell me, why all the ellipses? I only just became aware of how punctuation usage has changed recently and was wondering just what you meant by them. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/165 "2019-07-22T10:20:42Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > and was wondering just what you meant by them. When you see such posting style just imagine them stuggling in the think-room. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/166 "2019-07-22T11:51:50Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > What you mean is : > > WAAAAHHHH I DON’T WANT ANY CHANGE!!! > > MAAMMAAAA THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY THE GAME FROM ME!!! > > Change…is…not…bad… > > Standstill is… Given that this is pretty much the standard response from you and your alts, is it safe to assume that you were lying when you claimed to represent the majority? You certainly haven’t provided any substance to back up your arguments, or your prophecy of doom. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/167 "2019-07-22T13:15:11Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > > Change…is…not…bad… > > Tell me, why all the ellipses? I only just became aware of how punctuation usage has changed recently and was wondering just what you meant by them ![6fa9779cdc23afe783c554f8b95e7afc](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/3/a390dcffc555ea964271bc70fcfef9bf74f01d80.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/168 "2019-07-22T13:23:43Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > WAAAAHHHH I DON’T WANT ANY CHANGE!!! This is exactly true… for you at least… since you can’t adapt to a new game and want to get it changed into something familiar and easy for you. HTFU or play one of the other 1000 games out there that do what you want and have far less players than EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/169 "2019-07-22T14:07:32Z")
Boys… I expected this reaction… Trying to avoid any change to the better for this game on one hand and denying the playerloss this game suffers on the other no other reaction is possible…but still… My hope was that there would be at least a rest of reason in you to confess that this game has to change in order to survive at last…but no…will not happen… Well… Continue sweetalking an outdated game but don’t blame anyone but yourself if you will PVP with 2500 of other sweettalker in an endless loop over and over again because all other reasonable people have left the game in the future… The only other group that would be to blame would be CCP because they maybe listened to your selfish and unreasonable voices…I hope they don’t,i hope they do what is needed and ignore you… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/170 "2019-07-22T14:10:29Z")
So you are saying no matter what we do or dont do, the game will change in some unspecified way? Wow did your crystal ball tell you that, Mystic Meg? ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/171 "2019-07-22T14:11:33Z")
What about yours saying “eve will die without pvp in high” The fortune teller in your local subway must be really good if he can see this… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/172 "2019-07-22T14:26:35Z")
The statement > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > no matter what we do or dont do, the game will change in some unspecified way Has always been true. Are you saying that when you say > [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > “eve will die without pvp in high” Its equally true? > [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > The fortune teller in your local subway must be really good if he can see this… I dont understand what this is supposed to mean. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/173 "2019-07-22T14:29:20Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Trying to avoid any change to the better for this game on one hand Better is a matter of opinion, what you consider to be better is another persons worse. > denying the playerloss this game suffers on the other Nobody does this, we all accept that Eve loses players. > My hope was that there would be at least a rest of reason in you to confess that this game has to change in order to survive at last…but no…will not happen… Eve will have to change in small ways to survive, just as it always has; what’s not going to happen is the excision of the core fundamental principles behind it, one of them being that it is full time PvP in a sandbox environment. > Continue sweetalking an outdated game but don’t blame anyone but yourself if you will PVP with 2500 of other sweettalker in an endless loop over and over again because all other reasonable people have left the game in the future… You are not reasonable people, a reasonable person would have accepted that Eve is not the game for them and moved on long ago. A reasonable person wouldn’t carry on the way you do with your multiple alts and radical, yet worthless, opinion. > The only other group that would be to blame would be CCP because they maybe listened to your selfish and unreasonable voices…I hope they don’t,i hope they do what is needed and ignore you… The same could be said of you, an unreasonable and selfish voice. I hope that they ignore you and your ilk for all eternity. ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/174 "2019-07-22T15:34:14Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I dont understand what this is supposed to mean. You mean you using the crystal ball is not able to understand a fortune teller quote? That’s odd… And sounds like “i don’t want to give him the point here at all costs”… ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/175 "2019-07-22T15:42:12Z")
Where do your predictions of doom and gloom come from, because it appears that your fortune teller is a fraud. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/176 "2019-07-22T15:43:08Z")
No, I know what a crystal ball is (I mentioned it first). I dont know what it has to do with subway. And Ill take everytime you ignore a direct question as confirming Im right, btw. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/177 "2019-07-22T15:46:37Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Boys I object to this assumption. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/178 "2019-07-22T15:46:40Z")
I don’t think he’s referring to the subway that sells something masquerading as food, I believe he’s using the word in the American way to refer to an underground rail system or possibly an underground pedestrian walkway. > [@Mortlake](#): > > I object to this assumption. He’s a antagonistic arse that has little respect for what the majority of people find to be offensive, like the time he compared hisec PvE players to Africans enslaved in the 17th, 18th and early 19th centuries. I wonder how many alts he’s been through, this time last year I’m pretty sure he was posting using an alt named Ari Kolapa; the never changing script and batshit insane agenda make it pretty obvious. True to form that character was still posting while biomassed, just like the others. ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/179 "2019-07-22T18:16:36Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Where do your predictions of doom and gloom come from, because it appears that your fortune teller is a fraud. Nearly EVERYBODY of you in the past stated something like “If PVP in high ends this game will die”. Already forgotten it and it never happend eh? Well your flawed memory is not MY concern… ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/180 "2019-07-22T18:27:45Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Well your flawed memory is not MY concern… Sadly your obsession with glitter and rainbows is our concern, and you shall be chastised as long as the danger persists. This I swear, on the life of all that is brown and sticky. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/181 "2019-07-22T18:31:38Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Trying to avoid any change to the better for this game on one hand and denying the playerloss this game suffers on the other no other reaction is possible…but still… The game suffers because CCP is focusing on shitty PvE minigames instead of improving the PvP game. And for that “stuck in the past”, have you checked what the most played PC games actually are they are all PvP ALL OF THEM. The only one stuck in the past here is you ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/182 "2019-07-22T18:33:00Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > The game suffers because CCP is focusing on shitty PvE minigames instead of improving the PvP game. And for that “stuck in the past”, have you checked what the most played PC games actually are they are all PvP ALL OF THEM. The game suffers because CCP has favored A SINGLE playstyle for 15 years…beeing spoiled is no birthright you know… Make PVP and PVE EQUAL at least… And YES this means PVP has to give room to PVE ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620/183 "2019-07-22T18:35:24Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > The game suffers because CCP has favored A SINGLE playstyle for 15 years… Yeah no popular online game with one main concept has existed for more than, what 6 months? Thats why theres so many genres. Can you name 10 genres? Do you know what a genre is? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-is-stuck-in-the-past/176620.md?page=10)