# Eve isn't dying, but it isn't growing. My answer that devs won't recognize **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 29, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694 "2023-01-29T16:42:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/451 "2023-04-03T19:18:23Z")
> [@Klaatu\_Barada\_nikto](#): > > Work yields rewards and often without risk. Only because we don’t have enough talented villains. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/d/2/cd25ff0e7342ca201a81cbfefd34c058c7450c6b.jpeg "bad guy - Billie Eilish - Cover (Violin)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT5h_eOtwVs) ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu\_Barada\_nikto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/klaatu_barada_nikto/32/360937_2.png) [@Klaatu\_Barada\_nikto](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Klaatu_Barada_nikto)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/452 "2023-04-03T23:10:45Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Tem](#): > > Would that not be a bookseller? Are you a publisher? Though I can spot talent, I only work there. I don’t call the shots. Good guess though 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/453 "2023-04-03T23:34:06Z")
I believe in you. I think you’re a straight-shooter with “upper management” written all over you. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu\_Barada\_nikto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/klaatu_barada_nikto/32/360937_2.png) [@Klaatu\_Barada\_nikto](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Klaatu_Barada_nikto)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/454 "2023-04-04T01:06:43Z")
I appreciate the vote of confidence😃 Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![cyraxthehated\_Metesur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cyraxthehated_metesur/32/409997_2.png) [@cyraxthehated\_Metesur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cyraxthehated_Metesur)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/455 "2023-04-30T14:53:56Z")
Truth about player numbers, 20,000 online equals maybe 5000 with 2 alts. ---
**Author:** ![Fifie\_Brindacier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifie_brindacier/32/373279_2.png) [@Fifie\_Brindacier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifie_Brindacier)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/456 "2023-04-30T14:58:37Z")
> [@cyraxthehated\_Metesur](#): > > 5000 with 2 alts 5000 with 3 alts. But some players have 10 to 20 alts and when they multibox it’s 20 players with a thousand alts each 😃 ---
**Author:** ![cyraxthehated\_Metesur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cyraxthehated_metesur/32/409997_2.png) [@cyraxthehated\_Metesur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cyraxthehated_Metesur)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/457 "2023-05-06T14:07:48Z")
At least you get my point, the numbers are not what they seem. ---
**Author:** ![Lodemai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lodemai/32/374211_2.png) [@Lodemai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lodemai)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/458 "2023-05-07T21:12:51Z")
I’m not subscribing to the OP’s view but > [@Aaaarrgg](#): > > progress without the chance of loss is meaningless this is ■■■■■■■■, lots of systems are based on pure progression ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/459 "2023-05-08T07:25:36Z")
…and a lot of popular systems (and popular games) feel like a meaningless treadmill. ---
**Author:** ![Rens\_Rensy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rens_rensy/32/369077_2.png) [@Rens\_Rensy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rens_Rensy)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/460 "2023-05-08T21:13:10Z")
just like this one ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/461 "2023-05-08T21:16:48Z")
Then undock and do something other than post on the forums with a station trading alt. ---
**Author:** ![Rens\_Rensy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rens_rensy/32/369077_2.png) [@Rens\_Rensy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rens_Rensy)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/462 "2023-05-08T21:22:18Z")
go outside ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/463 "2024-02-11T03:09:31Z")
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