# Eve isn't dying, but it isn't growing. My answer that devs won't recognize **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 29, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694 "2023-01-29T16:42:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/178 "2023-02-03T17:33:17Z")
> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > they haven’t showed up since. I’m in fleet with both of them right now. ---
**Author:** ![Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuro_kanashimi/32/351894_2.png) [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuro_Kanashimi)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/179 "2023-02-03T17:40:01Z")
> [@Inaishite\_Teikei](#): > > There is a pattern on this forum of clean characters with no zKillboard history appearing out of nowhere and arguing in bad faith in a similarly thick-headed, weirdly passively-aggressive, personally insulting style. I’d advise not interacting with them or treating their attempts to get a rise out of you seriously. An astute observation. We know who it is as well 😃 You have grown wise in the ways of EVE. > [@T\_Elliot](#): > > The game does not need to be updated to cater to people who do not want to even play the game, but expect to be given things without effort. This should be posted on a billboard a thousand Amarrians wide at every gate in every system of space 😃 > [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > I reported Sargon of Amerish, Dumbest eve player How so? > [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > You must be trolling. You know that is against the eula right? You just personally insulted someone 😃 > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I’m in fleet with both of them right now. You just crushed his dreams 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Nienna\_Nannie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nienna_nannie/32/373656_2.png) [@Nienna\_Nannie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nienna_Nannie)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/180 "2023-02-03T17:54:48Z")
> [@Inaishite\_Teikei](#): > > Always nice to see this level of self-awareness Thank you. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuro_kanashimi/32/351894_2.png) [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuro_Kanashimi)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/181 "2023-02-03T18:11:19Z")
> [@Inaishite\_Teikei](#): > > Always nice to see this level of self-awareness. I see what you did there 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gelf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gelf/32/462608_2.png) [@Gelf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gelf)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/182 "2023-02-03T18:49:31Z")
I am going to recommend to you that you get some help. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/183 "2023-02-03T18:55:30Z")
> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > Players should not be stressed while playing in HiSec. Ok, lets just agree on that if you agree with me that we should remove _all and any_ high-reward content from Highsec. No more L4 missions. No more Abyssals. No Escalations. No Ice Belts. High “security” Taxes on all Industry Jobs, Contracts and Sell Orders. Freighters, Bowheads and Orcas get banned from HS. Bastion Module cannot be activated in Highsec. Private Structures and POCOs cannot be anchored in HighSec. So, players could learn the basics in HighSec, can look around and make the first steps of progress, but if they really want to afford any of the nice ships, implants or modules , PLEX or Skill Injectors they would have to leave HighSec and grind their ISK somewhere else, where there is no NPC security. Do we have a deal? ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/184 "2023-02-03T19:05:46Z")
> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > Players should not be stressed while playing in HiSec. At least not as that. Pvp wannabes should go to low or null or wormholes. I don’t find watching local stressful. I can do it with one eye while watching a movie with my other. I am not stressed until I see local spike, local has a known unfriendly in it, or I see flagged crims in local. Then I am d-scanning, aligning, and if I am not taking any chances I GTFO. I understand that if you are in your groove and crunching rocks you don’t want to have to interrupt it. I understand that you just want to set your orca up and then walk away from the computer and hang out with your spouse, maybe coming back every half an hour to check on things. If I am hauling a big load of goods I would like to just set my freighter on auto pilot to Jita, and then hang out with my wife for a while. But the thing is you are taking a risk when you do that. And when you take risks long enough you will eventually be unlucky. If you were taking the risk and were unlucky, that does not mean that the game needs to be redesigned to limit other people’s game play to cater to yours. ---
**Author:** ![Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuro_kanashimi/32/351894_2.png) [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuro_Kanashimi)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/185 "2023-02-03T19:47:40Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > I don’t find watching local stressful. I can do it with one eye while watching a movie with my other. I am not stressed until I see local spike, local has a known unfriendly in it, or I see flagged crims in local. Then I am d-scanning, aligning, and if I am not taking any chances I GTFO. Apparently people find it hard to play vidya games nowadays. Maybe if they stayed at the keyboard 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/186 "2023-02-03T19:52:49Z")
> [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](#): > > Apparently people find it hard to play vidya games nowadays. So they hang out in the forum spouting ■■■■ 24/7. Amiright…er…bruv? Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/187 "2023-02-03T21:18:15Z")
Says the guy posting on the forums…plenty…for a long time… Have mercy on my poor, worn, forums-ravaged irony sensor, Epeen. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/188 "2023-02-03T21:24:24Z")
The opinions of players with Aiko and his pet as their most liked are irrelevant and can safely be ignored. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/189 "2023-02-03T21:41:20Z")
You don’t have enough self-control to ignore us. ---
**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/190 "2023-02-03T22:14:05Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > The opinions of players with Aiko and his pet as their most liked are irrelevant and can safely be ignored. but…but… ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/f/8/1f80e14f432562689df18217c09626d8648b3c3c.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/6/7/d67d7f584a63ca064d951ae543fb9f7785532e2a.gif) ever so sadly… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/7/e/97e8c39c5edd94398bdf434f7f98f98aa7bba0f7.jpeg "Rammstein: Paris - Du Hast (Official Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5HAEzEk8QM&t=0s) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/9/c9dcc363e76724e5bd0b1769f34310f72eff05c1.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/192 "2023-02-03T22:35:36Z")
> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > I don’t make deals with idiots. See, and because you only want one-sided benefits but no drawbacks, you will get not deal with anyone. And this means EVE will stay a game where no area is entirely safe and it is mandatory to be careful and to pay attention. All the time. Or face the consequences (aka loss). ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/193 "2023-02-03T22:35:55Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > The opinions of players with Aiko and his pet as their most liked are irrelevant and can safely be ignored. Whoa, that’s a _lot_ of salt! Easy there, old-timer! It’s Friday! Be happy! ---
**Author:** ![Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuro_kanashimi/32/351894_2.png) [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuro_Kanashimi)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/194 "2023-02-03T22:37:13Z")
> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > Lol liar! Do you think anyone believes anything coming out of that gaping hole of bullsnit you call a mouth??? just checked your zkill, you were in a Nullsec fleet while those guys stayed home. Pretty sure they are banned at this point. LOL. Its so obvious you don’t actually play this game that it’s painful. > [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > Watch the video linked below. Its obvious that sargon controls the fleet. He talks to the streamer on twitch to draw his attention then after the gank he mocks and tries to extorr him using his dumbest player alt. You realize you’re breaking the EULA again right? > [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > Nah. They’re obviously banned actually. Cept they aren’t 😃 > [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > You shoul go see an eye doctor. Seems lime you have an issue there. The irony in this is just chef’s kiss. > [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > Thats how Eve was supposed to be played in nullnand wormholes FFS! Not highsec. Thats why high has less valuable ore. Less value and less risk! And my main point was the ease with which Sargon kills his victims. Right-click, fleet warp, activate broadcast, land on grid, 13 clicks, done! Literally 15 clicks. Itbshouldn’t be that easy!! ? Firing modules has always been easy. You realize the mechanical act of the module firing is the same for all EVE battles right? Also again, you are claiming he’s broadcasting. You actively have no proof of such and people have already explained to you how he did it legally. You’re embarrassing 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ha_kar_ma_gor/32/352552_2.png) [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ha_Kar_Ma_Gor)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/195 "2023-02-03T22:43:50Z")
> [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](#): > > You realize you’re breaking the EULA again right? And how exactly am I breaking the eula? > [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](#): > > again, you are claiming he’s broadcasting. You actively have no proof of such I already explained to you: he does one click in each game window and three weapon icons: the guns stack, the scrambler and the webifier all mysteriously overheat and activate with just that one click. You’re either stupid or willingly ignorant not to see it when it’s that obvious. > [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](#): > > You’re embarrassing No! You are an embarrassing troll! ---
**Author:** ![Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuro_kanashimi/32/351894_2.png) [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuro_Kanashimi)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/196 "2023-02-03T22:49:59Z")
> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > And how exactly am I breaking the eula? Personal insults. So since you’re so civic minded, you’ll be reporting yourself right? Right? > [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > I already explained to you: he does one click in each game window and three weapon icons: the guns stack, the scrambler and the webifier all mysteriously overheat and activate with just that one click. You’re either stupid or willingly ignorant not to see it when it’s that obvious. And it’s already been explained to you by several people how that is accomplished easily while multi-boxing without broadcasting. > [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > No! You are an embarrassing troll! I realize my shades are mirrored bro 😃 MJ said it best eh? ---
**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/197 "2023-02-04T01:00:38Z")
> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > REEEEEEEEE [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/3/3/93377a333fdb8a5b7cd6af1d991c4fcc39b2f27c.jpeg "MtHelicon2077 Ganked, swears at Aiko Danuja and ganking community - 2023.01.24") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4ZcMAqar7U) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/1/c171cde642d22a16decf793e03a1c1763a904ff1.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/8/6/586ff660c1c700e5349dab3d5acbf7e999fd910e.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/e/a/aeaf5dd3d268ebac28a1b4ee7d76dc17ab72d3f6.gif) ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2023, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-isnt-dying-but-it-isnt-growing-my-answer-that-devs-wont-recognize/393694/198 "2023-02-04T01:40:23Z")
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