# EVE-O Preview v5.1.0 "Able Actor" (multi-client preview / switcher) \[ 2021-05-08 \] + limited Linux support

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202>\
**Category:** Third Party Developers\
**Created:** [June 20, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202 "2017-06-20T17:15:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Treyan\_Argund](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/treyan_argund/32/375106_2.png) [@Treyan\_Argund](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Treyan_Argund)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/541 "2020-12-02T12:09:23Z")

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Fake Edit: I had a big long post about a “bug” with window snapping here when I noticed that the snapping is delayed by just under a second. Whoops.

This thing is nifty as hell, I’m totally gonna spend all day tweaking it to fit my layout and preferences. Nice work!

Do you have a preferred method for posting feature requests/ideas on git? Or would you rather me shut up and let you do your own thing 😛

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**Author:** ![Machine007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/machine007/32/244013_2.png) [@Machine007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Machine007)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/542 "2020-12-02T13:49:21Z")

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I have a problem with the thumbnails, If I try to change Chars by clicking on it, it isn’t working. Only if I use the Hotkey or Alt+Tab feature, but then my thumbnails are gone and I have to deselect/select “Previews always on top” to see them again.

Any Ideas how I can solve this issue?

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**Author:** ![Phrynohyas\_Tig-Rah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phrynohyas_tig-rah/32/420039_2.png) [@Phrynohyas\_Tig-Rah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phrynohyas_Tig-Rah)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/543 "2020-12-03T10:40:34Z")

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> [@Machine007](#):
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> I have a problem with the thumbnails, If I try to change Chars by clicking on it, it isn’t working. Only if I use the Hotkey or Alt+Tab feature, but then my thumbnails are gone and I have to deselect/select “Previews always on top” to see them again.

Step 1. Check that your clients are running in one of Window modes, not in `Fullscreen` mode 😉

> [@Treyan\_Argund](#):
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> Do you have a preferred method for posting feature requests/ideas on git? Or would you rather me shut up and let you do your own thing 😛

Git is OK. Feedback and feature requests are more than welcome.

Even if I do not answer immediately (a bit busy with boring RL stuff) I still read all of them

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Meh, I really hope to hear anything from CCP regarding EVE O Preview and their new Partnership program

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**Author:** ![Phrynohyas\_Tig-Rah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phrynohyas_tig-rah/32/420039_2.png) [@Phrynohyas\_Tig-Rah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phrynohyas_Tig-Rah)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/544 "2020-12-03T11:01:08Z")

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> [@Arch\_Typal](#):
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> Geeze, finally figured it out.
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> It was the HDR setting from the DP cable. I must have enabled it when setting up the new PC. As soon as I disabled it, everything worked fine. Side note, using an HDMI cable instead of the DP cable fixes this, as it automatically disables HDR.
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> Thanks for your help, that was a beast to figure out.

A follow-up (better late than never):

Seems something is not so good with Windows HDR implementation:

> <https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/windows-dev-docs/issues/2551>
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> When running applications in HDR mode ( Settings / System / Display / Play HDR g…ames and apps ) any overlay being rendered on screen such as TaskBar, TitleBar, Volume causes the DWM to fail - the screen goes black for a second or two. We think it's because with this setting enabled, applications are running in HDR and Windows Desktop is still running in SDR, so any attempt at rendering overlays (which is a really common and unwanted event in games) causes the DWM to fail because it can't render both SDR and HDR at the same time. 
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> // removed suggested solutions - really need to know what the issue is first. we think we know, but...
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> Can you please tell us what the problem is, what is Windows doing behind the scenes to break the graphics stack when these overlays are rendered? And can this be fixed. We are paying for HDR displays and the feature can't be used on Windows. That is a real cost to customers. I think HDR has been around long enough and there are enough HDR displays on the market now that we can expect these issues to be resolved.
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> Here are some mentions of the subject...
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> 2015 November / probably not HDR related, but could indicate a deeper problem that has just been coded over.
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows\_10-other\_settings/windows-10-volume-control-triggers-screen-to-flash/e2977765-49e5-4525-88d2-83194dce879f
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> 2018 May
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/hdr-fullscreen-problems/33e7e516-3364-4949-bdb0-6dfac9745fdb
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> 2019 June
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/hdr-issue-playing-games-or-fullscreen-youtube/ca061cc9-09b0-4424-9cbf-45111a9719ad
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> 2019 November
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/black-screen-hdr-after-adjusting-volume-1803-1903/ae7ab44c-a8c1-40aa-a28d-6e3bad15ad3e?page=1&tm=1593014549203
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> 2020 January
> https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/361167/black-screen-for-1-2-seconds-while-alt-tabbing-a-fullscreen-game-or-using-a-wind
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> 2020 February
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/issues-when-playing-games-in-full-screen-with-play/56d2b240-0856-4c12-a653-f454b13c8c0f
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> 2020 April
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/fsvec7/windows\_10\_2004\_hdr\_any\_improvements/
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> 2020 April
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/hdr-on-black-screen/783633cf-3149-4c78-a44d-3ccdb76677c3
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> 2020 April
> https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/g-sync-monitors/7/377104/hdr-off-and-on-after-adjusting-volume-windows-1803/
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> 2020 June
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/gzcytz/hdr\_causes\_black\_screens\_in\_games\_with\_lenovo/
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> 2020 June
> https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/hdixlp/support\_asus\_vg27aq\_black\_screens\_when\_changing/

An attempt to render HDR content (preview) on SDK display kills DWM (Windows core feature used to render previews).  
Core level bug I cannot do anything with.

Will update documentation file to cover this.

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**Author:** ![Machine007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/machine007/32/244013_2.png) [@Machine007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Machine007)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/545 "2020-12-03T11:51:15Z")

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They are both on Fixed Window 3440x1440.

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**Author:** ![Phrynohyas\_Tig-Rah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phrynohyas_tig-rah/32/420039_2.png) [@Phrynohyas\_Tig-Rah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phrynohyas_Tig-Rah)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/546 "2020-12-03T15:07:38Z")

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Is this Windows 7 or Windows 10?

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**Author:** ![Machine007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/machine007/32/244013_2.png) [@Machine007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Machine007)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/547 "2020-12-03T15:26:25Z")

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I’m using Win10.

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**Author:** ![oumpaa\_Podiene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oumpaa_podiene/32/411747_2.png) [@oumpaa\_Podiene](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/oumpaa_Podiene)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/548 "2020-12-04T19:24:40Z")

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Is there anyway to get this to work with linux? Specifically Linux mint 20?\>

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**Author:** ![Eryca\_Clawyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eryca_clawyer/32/396967_2.png) [@Eryca\_Clawyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eryca_Clawyer)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/549 "2020-12-05T08:28:56Z")

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> [@EVE-O Preview v5.1.0 "Able Actor" (multi-client preview / switcher) \[2021-05-08 \] + limited Linux support](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-0-1-fua-was-wrong-multi-client-preview-switcher-2020-06-01/4202/531):
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> Well, take a look at this post: [EVE-O Preview v5.0.1 "Fua Was Wrong" (multi-client preview / switcher) [2020-06-01]](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-0-1-fua-was-wrong-multi-client-preview-switcher-2020-06-01/4202/501)

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**Author:** ![Phrynohyas\_Tig-Rah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phrynohyas_tig-rah/32/420039_2.png) [@Phrynohyas\_Tig-Rah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phrynohyas_Tig-Rah)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/550 "2020-12-06T23:32:05Z")

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> [@Machine007](#):
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> I’m using Win10.

I’ll issue a small patch to see if it can be fixed (cannot reproduce this locally)

> [@oumpaa\_Podiene](#):
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> Is there anyway to get this to work with linux? Specifically Linux mint 20?\>

Well, if you’d try the solution from the post above and then contacted me via in-game mail so we’ll try to get it fully working - that would be cool. I need a tester for trying EVE-O builds on a real Linux  
I do not use Linux as a main system and won’t even try to run it in VM (rumors are that running EVE in a virtual machine can result in an account ban - so I do not want to check if this is true 😉 )

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**Author:** ![Web\_Driver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/web_driver/32/499364_2.png) [@Web\_Driver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Web_Driver)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/551 "2020-12-08T01:02:16Z")

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I like to use Windows Task View for multiple desktops, wish there was a setting to have EVE-O Preview on one desktop only.

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**Author:** ![Machine007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/machine007/32/244013_2.png) [@Machine007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Machine007)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/552 "2020-12-08T10:43:39Z")

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Just a quick Info for you, somehow I got it working. No Idea which change in Win10 was helping.  
Amazing tool.

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/553 "2020-12-11T23:19:46Z")

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When I start the game + the evo client, the client appears to stay running but the windows disappear? From Eve O, even though it’s running?

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**Author:** ![Tonto\_Auri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tonto_auri/32/388339_2.png) [@Tonto\_Auri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tonto_Auri)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/554 "2020-12-11T23:46:01Z")

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Do you mean that preview window disappears from view?  
Are you running multimonitor setup? See that it’s not covered by the EVE client.  
Also check the window coordinates in the `EVE-O Preview.json` config file or temporarily close EVE-O, rename config and restart the program.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/555 "2020-12-12T15:38:50Z")

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@Tonto_Auri All clients are on the same monitor. Nothing related appears on second monitor.  
No they are not being covered  
I’ve attempted to restart EveO several times, once closed and restarted (if the game is still running) Eve-O will not “re-appear”.  
I will attempt to the delete the .json and restart Eve O, as I can not open the file anyway.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/556 "2020-12-12T22:04:56Z")

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> [@Tonto\_Auri](#):
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> See that it’s not covered by the EVE client.

It IS covered. What is not covered is a mix of HDR and usual displays, yet this is a Windows10 issue.

Please double check that EVE clients are running in either `Fixed Window` or `Windowed` mode (ie not in `Fullscreen` mode)

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/557 "2020-12-15T00:45:16Z")

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Quick question: Is it possible to display just a small part of the Eve client window in a preview window? For example if I have 5 alts and want to just zoom in and see their high slots in the previews is that doable? I’m not afraid to modify the cfg file I just don’t know if what I’m asking for is even possible.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/558 "2020-12-15T10:03:54Z")

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Quick answer:

> **[Overlays, ISK Buyer Amnesty and Account Security | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/article/overlays-isk-buyer-amnesty-and-account-security)**
>
> Time to touch base on some things EVE’s Security Team has been working on and also discuss some golden oldies regarding account security. First a clarification on our rules and policies regarding overlays and other third party applications.  EVE...

  
Part 4.1 is the answer

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/559 "2020-12-15T14:34:07Z")

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if it’s really bugging you, that snapping “bug” can be removed by going back to an earlier incarnation (albeit without alot of the bells and whistles) 1.18 i roll with because of that.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v5-1-0-able-actor-multi-client-preview-switcher-2021-05-08-limited-linux-support/4202/560 "2020-12-15T14:39:35Z")

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yup. there’s a ‘zoom’ option. i tend not to use it myself because i like my thumbnails all clumped together. But, for your purposes i’d suggest fiddling with the zoom option by enabling it - AND making sure your thumbnails are spread far enough apart that you don’t get annoyed trying to switch clients and zooming instead on another one you didn’t intend to cursor over.

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