# EVE Online assets absolutely have value from the player’s perspective **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 22, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996 "2025-05-22T23:00:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/41 "2025-05-24T17:40:35Z")
@Aaaarrgg really gets around! * * * ![Aaaarrgg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/8/c/28c3e69b3493a53fcc3d355d9dc697d027cd7098.jpeg) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/42 "2025-05-24T21:29:54Z")
What’s the first comparison he makes? * * * [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/8/a/68acefd62a89187d6c2b5d9e4468abfbcb96680a.jpeg "Capital ship brawl - 1.9 TRILLION ISK destroyed! #eveonline #pvp") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJvZDMYvBGw) * * * ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/3/c/63c526af613fe1409266afb8ea33c68795dabcda.jpeg) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/43 "2025-05-24T21:30:49Z")
**Can someone explain why this thread would get flagged?** ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/44 "2025-05-24T21:38:40Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > It’s not a game. > > It’s a sport! [What Is the Difference between Games and Sports | Britannica Dictionary](https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/eb/qa/What-Is-the-Difference-between-Games-and-Sports#:~:text=Games%20and%20sports%20are%20very,The%20difference%20is%20subtle). I stand corrected with the MMA and Boxing comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Matthew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_matthew/32/461531_2.png) [@Mark\_Matthew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Matthew)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/45 "2025-05-25T13:32:06Z")
Statement **A** is more accurate and defensible. Here’s why: - **“Just like MMA, Boxing, Chess or Baduk. It’s a serious endeavor for others.”** — This acknowledges the subjective nature of how people treat games: casual for some, competitive for others. It draws valid comparisons to known sports and mind games, emphasizing that EVE _can_ be serious, without overstating its nature. - **“It’s not a game. It’s a sport!”** — This is catchy but hyperbolic. EVE _is_ a game. It can be played competitively like a sport, but saying it’s _not_ a game is rhetorically strong and logically false. So, A is true. B is dramatic. Use accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/46 "2025-05-25T13:35:08Z")
> [@Mark\_Matthew](#): > > So, A is true. > B is dramatic. ![joker](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/e/1/be1d38474decf96aac6a607282bf71d727fa138e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Matthew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_matthew/32/461531_2.png) [@Mark\_Matthew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Matthew)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/47 "2025-05-25T13:36:02Z")
You were right in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/48 "2025-05-25T13:45:19Z")
Hello Mark, What book you prefer The Bible or The Origin of Species? Warning: something may triggered by this. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Matthew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_matthew/32/461531_2.png) [@Mark\_Matthew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Matthew)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/49 "2025-05-25T14:28:20Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > The Bible For sure. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/50 "2025-05-25T22:39:20Z")
i am sorry, who sold whot ? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/51 "2025-05-25T23:52:57Z")
Where are you getting that display from ? ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/52 "2025-05-26T00:32:50Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > are you Aren’t you constantly busting my balls in these forums? ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/53 "2025-05-26T00:48:37Z")
Two of my favourites, and yes I am triggered. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/55 "2025-05-26T01:08:55Z")
To complicate matters more. Which is a fact and a fiction between those 2 books. 😊 Let’s make it 3. let’s include the Qur’an. 😁 Disclaimer: Every person IRL are entitled on what he believes as long as it doesn’t includes Criminal Activities, Racism, Discrimination, Abuse, and Violence. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/56 "2025-05-26T02:23:49Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > EVE’s server could melt down overnight and CCP would not owe us anything (aside from reimbursements of game time). In that scenario I think it’s highly questionable if we’d ever see any kind of reimbursement. Subscribers don’t have the same kind of security as investors/shareholders, secured loans, pensions, employee pay/severance, tax liabilities (etc) - and I’m probably missing a few. It would be more cost effective to just wind the studio down, stop providing any updates and just employ a skeleton crew to keep the servers online for 1-2 years to exhaust any subscriber liability (which would only be in the form of direct Omega purchases). Pretty sure PLEX wouldn’t have any cash redemption value (there’s probably some small print in the EULA that covers that). ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/57 "2025-05-26T02:30:56Z")
> [@Mark\_Matthew](#): > > Statement **A** is more accurate and defensible. > > Here’s why: > > - **“Just like MMA, Boxing, Chess or Baduk. It’s a serious endeavor for others.”** — This acknowledges the subjective nature of how people treat games: casual for some, competitive for others. It draws valid comparisons to known sports and mind games, emphasizing that EVE _can_ be serious, without overstating its nature. > - **“It’s not a game. It’s a sport!”** — This is catchy but hyperbolic. EVE _is_ a game. It can be played competitively like a sport, but saying it’s _not_ a game is rhetorically strong and logically false. > > So, A is true. > B is dramatic. > Use accordingly. Sheesh…I just want to log in and shoot a few ships and have some fun. I wasn’t expecting these guys to turn up… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/e/d/4ed97e749db463873049b2d50428e7e4fe896951.jpeg "NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKQ_sQKBASM) ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/58 "2025-05-26T04:30:03Z")
Suicide Gankers always preaching Jamess 3:15. ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_rose_ivory/32/515700_2.png) [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Rose_Ivory)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/59 "2025-05-27T18:57:59Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > Just like MMA, Boxing, Chess or Baduk. It’s a serious endeavor for others. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > It’s not a game. > > It’s a sport! Ok, you can both drink a lot of Red Bull & Monster™ then come join me at dialysis on Wednesday! Until then, have fun! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-assets-absolutely-have-value-from-the-player-s-perspective/486996/60 "2025-08-25T18:58:23Z")
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