# Eve Online Astronomy Club

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**Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\
**Created:** [July 25, 2019, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890 "2019-07-25T07:34:39Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/426 "2021-03-18T15:16:52Z")

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Oumuamua and the Black Hole.

If our Sun increased the acceleration of Oumuamua due to the heat from the Sun melting surface ice that created thrust due to the rapid expansion of frozen particles, then a similar process could be used to accelerate a probe or space craft using the heat from one of the gas giants in the solar system or even the heat from the Earth itself.

A rather interesting concept would then be to determine how fast an asteroid’s acceleration can be increased, based on the angle of interaction, with a black holes accretion disk.

If the correct angle is used that causes the asteroid to increase it acceleration and then deflect away from the black hole as a result of the ice being melted by the heat from a black hole, I wonder, how fast the asteroid can be accelerated by the black hole?

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/427 "2021-03-18T22:55:33Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
>
> If our Sun increased the acceleration of Oumuamua due to the heat from the Sun melting surface ice that created thrust due to the rapid expansion of frozen particles, then a similar process could be used to accelerate a probe or space craft using the heat from one of the gas giants in the solar system or even the heat from the Earth itself.
> 
> A rather interesting concept would then be to determine how fast an asteroid’s acceleration can be increased, based on the angle of interaction, with a black holes accretion disk.
> 
> If the correct angle is used that causes the asteroid to increase it acceleration and then deflect away from the black hole as a result of the ice being melted by the heat from a black hole, I wonder, how fast the asteroid can be accelerated by the black hole?

Sure, but, as you already know, both Voyager probes did this around Jupiter and Saturn to gain speed, which,  
while the angle and momentum, or, inertia, also is involved…

While acceleration is possible,  
astronomical acceleration from the Star in that astronomical star system,  
can be greater than that acceleration of other celestial items or space items in that astronomical system.

So yes, with practice, this can be improved by using the data gathering, so as to improve speed systems, velocity systems, acceleration systems, and, later, other related systems derived from those advancement.

A good example of this is the Parker probe which was sent towards the Sun and did gain more speed (than others).

It was not however in outer space, outside of this astronomical system, such as in the case of 'Oumuamua.

> **[Scientists determine the origin of extra-solar object 'Oumuamua](https://phys.org/news/2021-03-scientists-extra-solar-oumuamua.html)**
>
> In 2017, the first interstellar object from beyond our solar system was discovered via the Pan-STARRS astronomical observatory in Hawaii. It was named 'Oumuamua, meaning "scout" or "messenger" in Hawaiian. The object was like a comet, but with...

1 day ago

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> **[The debate continues: ‘Oumuamua could be remnant of Pluto-like planet](https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/03/the-debate-continues-oumuamua-could-be-remnant-of-pluto-like-planet/)**
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> Secret to at least one aspect of object's unusual properties lies in solid nitrogen ice.

3 hours ago

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> **[Space oddity Oumuamua probably shard of Pluto-like world, scientists say](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/mar/18/space-oddity-oumuamua-probably-shard-of-pluto-like-world-scientists-say)**
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> Interstellar visitor likely made of frozen nitrogen, cookie-shaped rather than cigar, and not a comet or asteroid – while some stick to alien theory

21 hours ago

–  
momenta) is the product of the mass and velocity of an object. It is a vector quantity, possessing a magnitude and a direction. If m is an object’s mass and v is its velocity (also a vector quantity), then the object’s **momentum** is: In SI units, **momentum** is measured in kilogram meters per second (kg⋅m/s).

SI unit: kilogram meter per second kg⋅m/s

Other units: slug⋅ft/s

[### Momentum - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum)

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/428 "2021-03-19T22:00:39Z")

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Going back to the comment regarding the wobble of a star and the wobble of planets.

Just prior to the Big Bang, the energetic forces present must have been wobbling due to gravitational influences being exerted on each object as the objects got closer and closer.

Theoretically, the gravitational forces of both objects, could have pulled particles out of each object that then collided together to create the Big Bang.

The question is, is gravity from a larger planet, such as Jupiter, Saturn, and Neptune Uranus, along with faster rotating bodies, such as Venus and Mercury required to assist in pulling on particles within a star to get the particles hyper active to create the energy potential in a sun?

Do smaller planets such as Earth, Mars, and Pluto help regulate the interactions taking place between the gravity of large planets exerting a pull on a star and a star pulling on the planets?

How can such an idea of two large bodies exerting a gravitational force and wobble on each other that pulls particles for each body, be converted into an energetic release at a middle focal point to be used as a thrust potential?

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/429 "2021-03-20T20:25:05Z")

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[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/a/9/da9136281681da04927849c10038205ae9fc7e77.jpeg "Inertia and Mass | Physics | Don't Memorise") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbWjx3LUc0U)

[#Inertia](https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/inertia) [#Mass](https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/mass) [#Physics](https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/physics)

# Inertia and Mass | Physics | Don’t Memorise

606,695 views • _Jun 12, 2017_  
[Don’t Memorise](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiTjCIT_9EXV1Wp1cY0zaUA)  
1.79M subscribers

> **[Inertia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertia)**
>
> Inertia is the natural tendency of objects in motion to stay in motion and objects at rest to stay at rest, unless a force causes its velocity to change. It is one of the fundamental principles in classical physics, and described by Isaac Newton in his first law of motion (also known as The Principle of Inertia). It is one of the primary manifestations of mass, one of the core quantitative properties of physical systems. Newton writes:
> LAW I. Every object perseveres in its state of rest, or of u...

> **[Inertia and Mass](https://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/Lesson-1/Inertia-and-Mass)**
>
> Unbalanced forces cause objects to accelerate. But not all objects accelerate at the same rate when exposed to the same amount of unbalanced force. Inertia describes the relative amount of resistance to change that an object possesses. The greater...

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/430 "2021-03-22T20:48:51Z")

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Bending time and space really isn’t as fancy as the term is made to sound.

When you bend space-time, all you are doing is taking a particle that is traveling at a certain velocity through space over a straight measutable distance, such as a wooden ruler and then curving points along the straight line.

So instead of points B through F being straight, there is a slight curve added to their location between A and G.

Basically, the distance between A and G is shortened when you bend the string in half as you bring points A and G closer together, even though the distance between points between A and G remains the same through points B through F.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/431 "2021-03-23T01:31:46Z")

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Well yes,  
but,  
when the straight line which straight line is formed from energy,  
cannot be straight,  
other than curved,  
from energy,  
without not being curved from energy,  
such as when you try to move a magnet with opposite polarity near a magnet with opposite polarity,  
they will exert vector forces acting as if some kind of gravity,  
which is similar, but, different too.

Also, we don’t bend space-time.  
That is done by astronomical forces.

The amount we do is infinitesimal compared.

Even with mass of those infinitesimal amount,  
it is still infinitesimal compared.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/432 "2021-03-23T10:46:05Z")

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Nope.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/433 "2021-03-23T14:00:52Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
>
> Nope.

Yes, and you always say that.

I also know why it’s true and why you say that too.

In fact, it’s false that it’s not true,  
because it’s true that it’s not false that it’s true,  
even though you say it’s not.

The test you propose is a test to measure only certain properties and attributes of a system, which system is in other systems affecting its result.

Therefore, it is used to analyze the system that the test is conducted in,  
to arrive at conclusions to measure difference in changes related to the same system.

Additionally, when you do include the other parts related to the scope of that system, you then get more accurate readings on your previous negative result , and you also get more accurate readings on the accuracy of the negative levels you mentioned.

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Additionally,  
you just don’t add variables into a system,  
so as if to add a certain type of potential for change and margin of error.

It’s the same system, and, unless you take the variables out of context, by giving them a new meaning by coercing the variables,  
the system stays the same,  
and the detection of the level of coercion of the variables can be detected by the system,  
because the way that the system is designed is designed to make it possible to detect exact level of coercion related to coercion of those variables.

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So, while true, and, if not true,  
it is certainly not Holy, and it’s more dirty than Holy.

In other words,  
your system is not fixed and there is little ways to verify the exact variations from tests until the variables in the systems are more clearly defined, which, in this case, it is not.

Therefore, if the tests cannot prove the result and cannot be used to get more details on the results of the tests from conducting the tests,  
it does not agree with the tests.  
Since the experiment results does not agree with the tests,  
the premise is false because the conclusion is not accurate and the assumption is false.

**Three kinds of syllogisms** , categorical (every / all), conditional (if / then), and disjunctive (either / or).

[### Syllogisms - the Form of logical reasoning](http://www.westada.org/cms/lib8/ID01904074/Centricity/Domain/6562/Syllogism%20and%20Enthymeme.pptx)

> **[Syllogism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllogism)**
>
> A syllogism (Ancient Greek: συλλογισμός, syllogismos, 'conclusion, inference') is a kind of logical argument that applies deductive reasoning to arrive at a conclusion based on two propositions that are asserted or assumed to be true.
> In its earliest form (defined by Aristotle in his 350 BC book Prior Analytics), a deductive syllogism arises when two true premises (propositions or statements) validly imply a conclusion, or the main point that the argument aims to get across. For example, knowing...

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/434 "2021-03-24T23:32:46Z")

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Or is it rotating tires? Lol.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/435 "2021-03-25T00:04:07Z")

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**Discrete Time Crystal and the Perpetual Energy/Motion Machine**

Proposed by [Frank Wilczek](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Wilczek) in 2012 as a progression of the [universal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe) model of [spacetime](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime), a **time crystal** is a [temporal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_physics) analog to common crystals, which are [spatially](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension) highly [symmetrical](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry) and yet non-uniform in their structure. In terms of practical use, time crystals may one day be used as [quantum memories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_memory).[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_crystal#cite_note-technologyreview.com-1)

A common [crystal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal) form is an [atomic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom) [lattice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bravais_lattice) structure that extends in all directions with a great deal of symmetry, but not perfectly so. Its asymmetry—known amongst researchers as [symmetry breaking](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry_breaking)—occurs in crystals even though the laws of physics are spatially symmetrical. As the laws of physics are [symmetrical in time](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-symmetry) as well as space, the question arose as to whether it is possible to break symmetry temporally and thus create a “time crystal” resistant to [entropy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy). A _discrete time crystal_ has in fact been observed in physics laboratories as early as 2016. One example of a time crystal which demonstrates non-equilibrium, broken time symmetry is a constantly rotating ring of charged ions in an otherwise lowest-energy state.[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_crystal#cite_note-technologyreview.com-1)[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_crystal#cite_note-2)[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_crystal#cite_note-3)

If a discrete time translation symmetry is broken (which may be realized in periodically driven systems), then the system is referred to as a discrete time crystal. A discrete time crystal never reaches [thermal equilibrium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_equilibrium), as it is a type of non-equilibrium matter. Breaking of time symmetry only occurs in non-equilibrium systems.[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_crystal#cite_note-4)

**In response to Wilczek and Zhang, Patrick Bruno, a theorist at the [European Synchrotron Radiation Facility](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Synchrotron_Radiation_Facility) in [Grenoble](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenoble), France, published several articles in 2013 claiming to show that space-time crystals were impossible. Also later Masaki Oshikawa from the University of Tokyo showed that time crystals would be impossible at their ground state; moreover, he implied that any matter cannot exist in non-equilibrium in its ground state.[[10]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_crystal#cite_note-10)[[11]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_crystal#cite_note-11)**

\*\*\*Those jokers need to explain how matter can exist in a non-equilibrium in its ground state prior to stars and planets in the Universe coming into being. \*\*\*

**Perpetual Motion Machine - possible**

**Perpetual motion** is the motion of bodies that continues forever in an unperturbed system. A **perpetual motion machine** is a hypothetical machine that can do work infinitely without an external [energy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy) source. This kind of machine is impossible, as it would violate the [first](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_law_of_thermodynamics) or [second law of thermodynamics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics).[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion#cite_note-Derry-3)[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion#cite_note-Roy-4)[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion#cite_note-5)[[5]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion#cite_note-6)

If we don’t understand the Universe prior to the Big Bang, then a perpetual motion type of machine was at work. Einstein’s theories fizzle out as we travel back through the Big Bang, but there was an energy source that came from infinite, a long range force acting upon the Time Crystal.

Then there’s this…

In 2017, new states of matter, [time crystals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_crystal), were discovered in which on a microscopic scale the component atoms are in continual repetitive motion, thus satisfying the literal definition of “perpetual motion”.[[8]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion#cite_note-Grossman_2012-9)[[9]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion#cite_note-Cowen_2012-10)[[10]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion#cite_note-Powell_2013-11)[[11]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion#cite_note-Gibney_2017-12) However, these do not constitute perpetual motion machines in the traditional sense or violate thermodynamic laws because they are in their quantum [ground state](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_state), **so no energy can be extracted from them; they exhibit motion without energy.**

If the component atoms are in continual repetitive motion and other atoms are passed by the component atoms and interaction will take place. There is an atom that can extract the energy from the quantum in their ground state.

Ground State - the lowest energy state of an atom or other particle.

Even in the atoms lowest state of energy, that energy can be extracted and stored in capacitors. The capacitors then provide larger energy production centers with electricity that then in turn, powers even larger sources of producing electrical power.

One form of Perpetual Motion Machining is the following:  
Take a hexagon and create exhaust ports on each facing so that the exhaust ports all face the same direction. Place on each face a layer of ice material the same that was located on the surface of Oumuamua. Cover each ice layer with a glass case that will allow sunlight into the chamber to sublimate the ice and create pressure. The pressure in each chamber shall then be directed out through each nozzle to provide thrust. As each facing is turned on an axel due to sublimation, the axel attached to a generator shall turn and generate electricity. Each facing shall provide at least 100 mph of turning force on the axel. In space, since there is light reaching the machine from at least 25 light years away, that light shall be factored into the sublimation process of turning the axel attached to the generator.

Thus the turning machine shall look like a pinwheel in space, a cold black hole if you will, that produces electrical power. In the center of hexagon machine shall set the Time Crystal, that spinning faster and faster shall encounter atoms that will in fact extract energy from between the component crystals and and the free flowing atoms to generate a beacon of the crownless human, once again becoming King.

if the Time Crystal is rotated on a perfect axial spin at various velocities and light photons of various frequencies are fired at the Time Crystal also at various velocities, the spin of light photons being projected and the spin of the Time Crystal should see the component atoms of the Time Crystal and the light photos orbiting each other to possibly create a gravitational force inside of the Time Crystal itself.

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[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/b/1/9b117800c6ff11962fc3684cee84069af7b7ac00.jpeg "New M87 black hole image reveals magnetic fields | 55 million light-year zoom-in") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHTN4One7OY)

# New M87 black hole image reveals magnetic fields | 55 million light-year zoom-in

10,918 views • _Mar 24, 2021_  
10K views - 16 hours ago  
[VideoFromSpace](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVTomc35agH1SM6kCKzwW_g)  
1.41M subscribers  
1 minute 13 seconds audio-visual.

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[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/4/f/44f63228122a1ccccaf1575cad0af0eef8ab9bc5.jpeg "Invisible Milky Way 'relic' disrupting closest star cluster?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I8lFZH_sn8)

# Invisible Milky Way ‘relic’ disrupting closest star cluster?

2,756 views • _Mar 24, 2021_  
2.7K views - 11 hours ago  
2 minutes 02 seconds audio-visual.

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_2. - 18 minutes later at 06:54 Thu Mar 25, 2021:_

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/8/5/185d9f9ee0544e3e1f243935ce4e4ff7d0a27a1c.jpeg "Top Dense Things Ever") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk2xg7OpCMc)

[#mrslav](https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/mrslav) [#blackhole](https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/blackhole) [#comparison](https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/comparison)

# Top Dense Things Ever

1,434,137 views • _Jul 2, 2019_  
1.4M views - 1 year ago  
[MR SLAV](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR2-G8Gpl-5QN3I9Y8cgoWw)  
468K subscribers

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First photo of the season. Camera sensor calibration without telescope.

V Oph

 ![0325210440](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/5/b/d5b891c598ac9eeafe34510a28bf2551651c68ef.jpeg)

V Oph with Alpaca filter to highlight the stars.

 ![0325210440~2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/1/9/f19f8e47ccf7b540d404b48e706c6a583f757429.jpeg)

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[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/3/5/03546354026ed870ea3314b0746c6222bb65bbed.jpeg "Updated Image of M87\* Black Hole Suggests Insane Magnetic Fields") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcegJAxuGSo)

# Major M87\* Black Hole Updates Suggest Insane Magnetic Fields

38,299 views • _Mar 26, 2021_  
32K views - 6 hours ago  
[Anton Petrov](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCciQ8wFcVoIIMi-lfu8-cjQ)  
744K subscribers

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_ **Genius at Work** _

> **[Levitation](https://www.ru.nl/hfml/research/levitation/)**
>
> Magnetic levitation

The article involves magnetic levitation, which is a real thing that actually works.

The genius aspect is taking telescope and mounting one plate to the telescopes EQ mount. Based on how magnetic levitation works, the plate with the telescope is levitate above the other plate a few inches.

The advantage of a levitating plate for a telescope is that the telescope would never come into contact with the telescope base and would see less transfer of gravitational forces, the Earth spinning, while looking and taking photos through the telescope.

The telescope would also be able to be hand turned and able to be positioned at any angle.

Quantum Locking - [https://youtu.be/8GY4m022tgo](https://youtu.be/8GY4m022tgo)

The size of the plate that the telescope would sit on would have to be relative to the overall weight of the telescope itself. Since a 202kg Sumo can stand on a plate that is levitate with super conducting magnets, a telescope wouldn’t be very difficult to build on top of the super conducting plate.

The car wasn’t a car until the wheel was discovered and the first wheel was not round.

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I’ll check it out…

I already knew about magnetic repulsion system for highest speed maglev trains in Japan.

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# How One Supernova Measured The Universe

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[Veritasium](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHnyfMqiRRG1u-2MsSQLbXA)  
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# Surprise Evidence That Water on Mars Is Trapped Inside the Planet

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[Anton Petrov](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCciQ8wFcVoIIMi-lfu8-cjQ)  
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I firmly believe that water is trapped deep inside of Mars. Otherwise there wouldn’t be trends of methane sublimating from Mars.

## Pockets of methane in the shallow Martian subsurface. Implications for rapid and seasonal changes of the atmospheric methane on Mars.

> **[Pockets of methane in the shallow Martian subsurface. Implications for rapid...](https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2018AGUFM.P43K3877P/abstract)**
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> Martian atmospheric methane remains a mystery. Recent discoveries of the abrupt and seasonal changes in the atmospheric methane (Webster et al., 2015,2018) require presence of some local methane sources which have not been identified. Such sources...

Two artifacts found in the recent V Oph photo.

![Artifact 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/c/c/ecc25b47df3ace61eef59a8451d0d60891a1a219.jpeg) ![Artifact 3a](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/7/a/77a346358cabf4ec647d20697e284b1a737f9b52.jpeg)

BIG

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The best signal to send into space is the heart beat pattern of a human male, female, cat, dog and bird. Each creature has its own heart beat pattern that is based on taking in oxygen and other gases and converting them into oxygen. An alien species would understand a pictogram associated with a heartbeat algorithm due to the fact that any alien life on a planet where oxygen is present would have a similar heartbeat pattern as well. The dog, cat and bird and even goldfish heart beat patterns would also inform the alien life that we have pets similar to their cats and dogs, flying creatures and creatures that live in the ocean, which all relates to one universal foundation, if a planet has life on it, along with water and oxygen, then the heart beat patterns of life on two distant but similar planets, would be very similar. Such a pictogram message would also relay to the intelligent alien life that our planet is within a habitable zone from our Sun as well as having tectonic plate activity and a Moon, all of which are the base of creating work on a planet where energy is consumed that creates a distinct heartbeat pattern.

If you want to look for parallel universes, check for errant and otherwise ridiculous reasons why fields of plasma sudden appear in space where the plasma fields shouldn’t be. The Grape and Micro Wave Theory has proven that two grapes placed side by side in a microwave produces plasma. The same could hold true for parallel universes bumping into each other, where the background radiation being generated by both universes would have the same wavelength height as both universes and would thus cause ridiculous pockets of plasma as the universes pass through each other and certain edges of the grapes of both Universes come into contact with each other.

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# Supermassive Black Hole In This Galaxy Is Moving Somewhere Fast

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The black hole is heading right towards Earth.

Here is an idea I thought about that involves Quantum Trapping using two levitation rails. Computer logic gates could be stacked and connected inside of the Dyson Quantum Box between the two rails. Basically the logic gates would be suspended inside of the box as would the operating component parts. Because everything would be supercooled and needed to be kept at a constant cooler rate, logic gates could stacked everywhere, even around the CPU itself, thus giving the Dyson Quantum Box computer millions of times more computational speed then the other guy.

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The first questions is, are Magnetic Flux Lines able to carry enough current to operate a logic gate?

The reason I ask this questions is, if Magnetic Flux Lines are able to carry enough current to operate a computer logic gate, then a whole new type of CPU can be developed. The basis of the Quantum Processor is rather simple. The processor shell is comprised of neodymium magnets. The logic gates are made of superconducting material that would allow the logic gate to be suspended between the top and bottom of the CPU shell. Based on Quantum Trapping, the logic gates could overlap each other, the current then being passed along the magnetic flux lines would interact with the logic gate to create a function. But because the magnetic flux lines are not blocked, proven by passing a magnet under another magnet on a Quantum Levitating track, would the same current of electricity traveling with the magnetic flux lines be able to operate a stack a 50 logic gates, all designed to perform a single and different operation?

 ![Quantum Dyson Box 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/e/5/3e5cb0f3b6440a1c6a8acdf0d8ea30c974645be6.jpeg)

Battery Powered by Nitrogen

> **[Battery prototype powered by atmospheric nitrogen](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/04/170413130645.htm)**
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> As the most abundant gas in Earth's atmosphere, nitrogen has been an attractive option as a source of renewable energy. But nitrogen gas doesn't break apart under normal conditions, presenting a challenge to scientists who want to transfer the...

The battery in the article would powered by the Nitrogen that is pumped into the CPU to keep the superconducting magnets/logic gates cool.

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