# Eve Online Astronomy Club **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [July 25, 2019, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890 "2019-07-25T07:34:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/809 "2024-10-03T13:38:17Z")
But do you know for certain the little bastards with tentacles squiggling down the street didnt see Jimmy Carter, stuck a tentacle up his nose and said ‘Let there be long life in this man?’ ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/810 "2024-10-03T13:39:54Z")
Could be a reflection of the light photon against Dark Matter. Not certain how light would reflect against matter though. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/811 "2024-10-04T10:51:21Z")
It seems that the event (firing a photon into a cloud of cold atoms) hadn’t been carried out yet, but the same photon was still recorded leaving the cloud of cold atoms before it had even been fired into the cloud. I’m still baffled. The arrow of time goes one way, so…the photon would need to be first fired into the cloud in order for it to leave the cloud. I’m so confused I’m not even sure exactly what I’m asking lol. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/812 "2024-10-04T18:02:42Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > photon [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/9/3/993c3fb31caeb68799d2c2ff9bfacb148be50597.jpeg "Negative Time is Real, Physicists Confirm. Kind Of.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErLHm-1c6I4) ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/813 "2024-10-06T02:18:35Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > It seems that the event (firing a photon into a cloud of cold atoms) hadn’t been carried out yet, but the same photon was still recorded leaving the cloud of cold atoms before it had even been fired into the cloud. Could there some sort of gravitational lensing that takes place that actually transfers a portion of the light, ahead of it? Does the photon lose any energy when in the presence of cold atoms when compared to not being in the presence of cold atoms? Cold normally draws the heat out, could cold atoms draw the heat being generated by the atom away and project the heat on the other side? Does the light and heat that is being projected by the cold atoms register as a temperature? ---
**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/814 "2024-10-06T11:04:55Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > But do you know for certain the little bastards with tentacles squiggling down the street didnt see Jimmy Carter, stuck a tentacle up his nose and said ‘Let there be long life in this man?’ I don’t understand. > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/9/3/993c3fb31caeb68799d2c2ff9bfacb148be50597.jpeg "Negative Time is Real, Physicists Confirm. Kind Of.") I don’t understand this either, but I’m like this cat after watching: ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/f/b/bfb76d06767d3e9b8261338516ef9cad71e7733b.gif "Huh Cat GIF - Huh cat - Discover & Share GIFs") ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/815 "2024-10-07T06:36:25Z")
The takeaway is that the effect doesn’t alters the passage of time. “Negative time” is a manner of speaking about a weird effect when light is absorbed and emitted back by atoms. It is related with what phsycists cal a “photon” in experiments, which is a package of many individual frequencies, and the speed of that package is measured as the distance between peaks of energy. But then some mediums will emit some frequencies faster than others causing an outgoing peak that shows up before the average peak has had time to exit the medium -which can be interpreted as the peak having been delayed negatively (instead of slower, it’s gone faster) but doesn’t really matters because the whole average of the packet will just behave as properly. Mind you, a photon is a single entity and once interacted with, it’s gone -so we need hordes of photons to measure how photons behave by culling a few from the herd at each interaction point. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/816 "2024-10-07T13:43:13Z")
So basically, the front edge of the photon is being detected before the actual photon is detected. Much like the shock wave a nuke is felt before the main blast. ---
**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/817 "2024-10-07T15:19:43Z")
Now I understand. Thanks for the both explanations. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/818 "2024-10-09T11:42:29Z")
We can’t have a convo about Astronomy without Brian Cox, he has a new series about the solar system on the BBC in the UK. [Brian Cox - Solar System - Episode 1-1](https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0023884/solar-system-series-1-1-volcano-worlds?at_mid=ZrZXTCLga5&at_campaign=Solar_System_Volcano_Worlds&at_medium=display_ad&at_campaign_type=owned&at_audience_id=SS&at_product=iplayer&at_brand=p0jsg3l7&at_ptr_name=bbc&at_ptr_type=media&at_format=image&at_objective=consumption&at_link_title=Solar_System_Volcano_Worlds&at_bbc_team=BBC) ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/819 "2024-10-09T13:30:44Z")
Same old rinse and repeat solar system science. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/820 "2024-10-09T18:11:41Z")
Nope, this first episode he is talking about Volcano’s on mars and how the energy at the core of a planet was initially generated and stored/released. He visit’s Iceland in this episode which is partly why I posted it here. ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/821 "2024-10-09T18:52:03Z")
Mars+Iceland+volcanos? Then surely he will talk about pseudocraters, aka [rootless cones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootless_cone). Iceland: so freak it sports a type of geological feature only found elsewhere on the planet Mars. Mars: so freak it sports a type of geological feature created by the interaction of lava and water only found elsewhere on Iceland. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/822 "2024-10-10T13:43:58Z")
In compliant English. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/823 "2024-10-10T18:39:38Z")
> **[Brian Cox (physicist)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cox_(physicist))** > > This is an accepted version of this page > > > Brian Edward Cox CBE FRS (born 3 March 1968) is an English physicist and musician who is a professor of particle physics in the School of Physics and Astronomy at the University of Manchester and the Royal Society Professor for Public Engagement in Science. He is best known to the public as the presenter of science programmes, especially BBC Radio 4’s The Infinite Monkey Cage and the Wonders of... series and for popular science books, such as Why Does... ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/824 "2024-10-10T18:44:02Z")
Repeating old facts is not science. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/825 "2024-10-10T20:08:38Z")
Actually it is, children aren’t born with this knowledge and would need to be taught it. So yes repeating the same thing every year is science. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/826 "2024-10-11T02:01:50Z")
But isn’t ‘the same thing’ not really science based on its generalist approach? ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/827 "2024-10-11T05:48:08Z")
I don’t know what you’re on about, the study of the solar system will always be science. You only see this subject from your perspective only and don’t seem to understand this info would be very useful to young people who haven’t yet studied as much as you have. A generalist approach can be a good thing, I used to program databases and found that my knowledge of how hardware works helped me program some good apps. So for me it wasn’t just about learning to program it was also about understanding the platform which my programs would “sit upon”. The generalist approach in Brian Cox’s TV show can help people gain an understanding of how so much energy came to be stored in a planets core which should then give them an understanding of what they are seeing when a volcano errupts in Spain. Also this is a TV show where the goal is to entertain as well as educate. I like this type of show and it’s format and I have lots of respect for Brian Cox. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/828 "2024-10-11T06:25:40Z")
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