# Eve Online Astronomy Club **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [July 25, 2019, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890 "2019-07-25T07:34:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/86 "2019-09-27T07:41:59Z")
The video is backwards as Jupiter and its moons should be travelling from left to right. Jupiter and moons video. The video is jumpy because I am still using the control cables instead of the slow motion tracker. Still taken from the above video. ![Jupiter2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/9/b97cc994aa6c931a270e833157307844f696c4d1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/87 "2019-09-27T09:19:12Z")
I went back through the image and looked for interesting artifacts that could create some really good conversation. The image if of the original “Old Greeny” blur. I have chosen 15 different artifacts that have been magnified 5,000 times their original pixel size in the image. ![Objects%20of%20interest](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/1/21b85fa03d392c52915dbddc49bf1ff34de71e79.jpeg) 1. ![On15k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/4/64e576df7db349abb11559c89da63a9f0d0a09cb.jpeg) 2. ![On25k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/c/ecf06bb35686d05e88e70b5732c08abca5fde4bb.jpeg) 3. ![On35k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/9/297214febf55fdb333215842573f7a5539ac49eb.jpeg) 4. ![On45k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/6/567693098fbbdfa20c672ed8d321b8c1e240a220.jpeg) 5. ![On55k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/f/2feea998ea947eb12eb7730f5cf5958708a0d3ad.jpeg) 6. ![On65k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/a/7a8aa1d3d23b4a7287ce1d8582af6b7eedb7171a.jpeg) 7. ![On75k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/1/9163171dda6ade6978ec6dcb3aab4b5b6810ea97.jpeg) 8. ![On85k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/4/044b107d06d0629467a719abf50514f321b13aac.jpeg) 9. ![On95k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/4/44b63d2374bcb7fd808bd873721be553c157d988.jpeg) 10. ![On105k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/d/8d154075c0272ebc48708b791c6196dfdbbdcfb5.jpeg) Could be a comet. Notice how the head of the artifact is brighter and then gets dimmer towards the tail? 11. ![On115k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/1/81688a7a36a6406a15bea138f0a1092d5b5fea75.jpeg) 12. ![On125k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/5/c5ff7c4180da8a3c04c5cca301e4719aea323038.jpeg) 13. ![On135k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/a/aadddba04fe922d00ec9079001d08117d7533288.jpeg) 14. ![On145k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/e/3ece7529f7b73f899a12d91bc621684809d7a16e.jpeg) 15. ![On155k](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/4/74cf6f254e9280e89a9424f0184f4b8a60eadd77.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/88 "2019-09-27T11:43:31Z")
What can I say… Noise is not data, dude. 🤷🏻‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![Corey\_Fumimasa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corey_fumimasa/32/402866_2.png) [@Corey\_Fumimasa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corey_Fumimasa)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/89 "2019-09-29T01:43:19Z")
Some great pictures there. The filtered moon shots on 22AUG are kind of creepy. And then a few days latter you grabbed a nice one of the big dipper. I did a double take on the way your camera split Alcor and Mizar. What is the light ray to the right of the dipper? Saturn over Sagitarius on 26SEP is neat, the comparison shots are fun to parse through. Excellent work, thanks for posting! ---
**Author:** ![Corey\_Fumimasa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corey_fumimasa/32/402866_2.png) [@Corey\_Fumimasa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corey_Fumimasa)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/90 "2019-09-29T02:10:53Z")
The photons from publicly available images are a very small fraction of a second old. If you go outside and look at Andromeda the photons that come to rest in your eyes are two and a half million years old and have traveled across an expanse so great it boggles the mind. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/91 "2019-10-01T12:44:06Z")
Wrong…noise is data, otherwise it wouldn’t register as anything…bye… ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/92 "2019-10-01T12:46:16Z")
It would be interesting to determine what stars made the digital images above referred to as ‘noise.’ How cool is it too have a representation that is hundreds of millions if not billions of years old captured for all time? Most people don’t have that. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/93 "2019-10-02T06:16:27Z")
**Star Trail** - A **star trail** is a type of photograph that uses long exposure times to capture the apparent motion of **stars** in the night sky due to Earth’s rotation. A **star** - **trail** photograph shows individual **stars** as streaks across the image, with longer exposures yielding longer arcs. Example: f/2.8-f/4 for **star trail** shots. **Exposure** Time / Shutter Speed: Full Frame Camera: 30 – 60 seconds works well to capture **star trails** per Method 1 as described below. The longer the **exposure** the more “far away **light** ” your camera will capture. So when taking images with your Smartphone the longer that you set the shutter time means that you be able to take images of deep space stars that are more visible as points of light and not star trails. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/94 "2019-10-02T06:17:31Z")
Snapped a few meteorites tonight. ![Meteorite1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/3/a337ed739816f5d8aed6d1d0c0e6f092516cf2b4.jpeg) Original ![Meteorite2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/5/35cd846cc00708fb99986c5543e115a88917957e.jpeg) Fade Correction of 10% and the image rotated properly. ![Meteorite3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/7/a71a3bd04fd951c1029a217c52b57731070351e7.jpeg) Original image rotated properly. ![Meteorite4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/3/a38e8085c8bd906e98e23c87ae430286adf053e8.jpeg) Zoomed in image of the meteorite. The point of light is the actual meteor itself. The exposure was set to :30 seconds meaning that there is a second of exposure in between each point. The meteor lasted for about :22 seconds before burning up in the atmosphere. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/95 "2019-10-02T07:31:56Z")
Something interesting about Jupiter and Io, Jupiter’s closest moon. While looking through the image trying to find the other moons of Jupiter, I noticed that Io and Jupiter appear to be transferring atmosphere, annotated by the arrow. If you at the rest of the outer surface of Jupiter you won’t see any ‘tunnel’ like shapes. What this would imply is that if a habitable world, such as K2-18b, had a moon orbiting close enough to the mother planet that the mother planet could transfer its atmosphere to its child moon. Thus creating a near replica of life on the moon itself. Or more so that atmosphere could be transferred from the sun to the furthest planet in the case of the TRAPPIST-1 solar system. > **[TRAPPIST-1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRAPPIST-1)** > > TRAPPIST-1, also designated 2MASS J23062928-0502285, is an ultra-cool red dwarf star that is slightly larger, but much more massive, than the planet Jupiter; it is located 39.6 light-years (12.1 pc) from the Sun in the constellation Aquarius. Seven temperate terrestrial planets have been detected orbiting the star, a larger number than detected in any other planetary system. A study released in May 2017 suggests that the stability of the system is not particularly surpr A team of Belgian astron... ![Jupiter4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/3/a337128b03c938573c1611a81aeff04a1a4673a4.jpeg) ![Jupiter4a](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/8/38fa1c1fd924e5d9f54351f340ab398338e5fdc3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Andski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andski/32/147029_2.png) [@Andski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andski)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/96 "2019-10-02T16:55:42Z")
One of the unfortunate consequences of the modern world is that the best dark sky preserve near me is a 10 hour drive away ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/97 "2019-10-02T21:03:04Z")
As I said: noise is not data. What you see in that image is color bleeding, blurryness, lots of noise and too much processing algorythms. You can’t even see the clouds on Jupiter, but you claim there’s an atmosphere exchange between Jupiter and Io? Really?? It’s just noise. Color bleeding, blurryness, noise, and too much postprocessing. _Those pixels show nothing real._ ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/98 "2019-10-03T10:02:27Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/0/20ae60a9d878a98e7d52dc76cbd4ee88cb2c37ff.jpeg) Too blurry to be sure it isnt the alien spaceship. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/99 "2019-10-03T13:26:17Z")
You have no idea what you are talking about. ![Pixel%20Noise](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/7/27522106fd283bd0c9c126976ce7e146d726b414.jpeg) Another enhanced image. The pixel noise that you refer to as not being anything is actually the light from stars light years away that my Smartphone captured during the :30 second exposure. But seeing how you are just a video gamer and don’t even have a telescope then I understand your lack of knowledge. More pixel noise that isn’t data even though its a star. ![Pixel%20Noise2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/a/7a119dc3430039a07888e49ef63fee7a39fc9dfd.jpeg) What does pixel data represent? ![Undersampled](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/6/36707b448d4729078adb9c5fda5a6a61107c379a.jpeg) **Data = true signal + noise** **Data** = true signal + **noise** **Noisy data** is **data** with a large amount of additional meaningless information in it called **noise**. This includes **data** corruption and the term is often used as a synonym for corrupt **data**. It also includes any **data** that a user system cannot understand and interpreted correctly. In your case Yiole its **data** that a user system cannot understand and interpreted correctly. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noisy\_data#targetText=Data%20%3D%20true%20signal%20%2B%20noise,cannot%20understand%20and%20interpreted%20correctly](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noisy_data#targetText=Data%20%3D%20true%20signal%20%2B%20noise,cannot%20understand%20and%20interpreted%20correctly). Processing an image to get rid of the extra noise , which in this case would be any type of radiation that the telescope is picking up, is how a user comes to understand the interpret the data correctly. Another set of noisy data that isn’t anything. ![Tabby's%20Star](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/e/1e30ca26c3443513191b5213e75e7b8616d466c8.jpeg) Tabby’s Star ![Tabby's%20Star1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/d/fd43f7ea2dbe67933209aebeb77bc1a33fcd7181.jpeg) ![Tabby's%20Star2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/6/86cf1fda676d6525ef508c70312ef0c5ad63b8d7.jpeg) Notice all of the noisy data in the background of both pictures? In the first image you can see the stars in the back ground. In the second image you can see the processed image to cancel out various stars but you can also see the spaghetti noise that is obviously radiation of some type. But still noise is not data. Have you ever listen to what Jupiter sounds like? What Jupiter sounds like taken by the Voyager probe. So obviously all of that noisy data that you say is nothing is in fact meaningful data. So how can Jupiter be creating sound or noise in space when no one can hear you scream in space? I can the see rings of Jupiter, very faintly, with my telescope. The images that I take of Jupiter are with a Smartphone that isn’t designed for astrophotography but I still get the shots and understand what I am seeing. And by the way the scam of being an Alpha and not being able to do this or that unless I purchased an Omega account goes to show how lost those involved who troll me looking for content really are. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/100 "2019-10-03T13:50:17Z")
Have you tried building a Dark Box around your telescope? Basically it can a simple small black bucket that fits over the end of your telescope to shroud it from light that is behind you and parallel to the front of the scope. Or you take a large card board box spray paint the inside of it a flat and non-glassy black. You then place the end of your telescope into the box. It might help with the light pollution that you are experiencing. ---
**Author:** ![Andski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andski/32/147029_2.png) [@Andski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andski)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/101 "2019-10-03T17:58:36Z")
The problem I have is insane sky glow, not a random street lamp. I don’t have a telescope because I know it’d go unused from having to drive out some ~100 miles and set up on the side of some farm to market road to have a dark enough sky to do any real observation. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/102 "2019-10-07T11:10:39Z")
Here’s a good article on light pollution from Sky & Telescope. > **[Observing from the City - Sky & Telescope](https://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-equipment/observing-from-the-city/)** > > With the stars increasing being lost amid the light pollution of our urban areas, is there no hope for an astronomer in the city? Fortunately, there's still a lot of observing that can be done. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/103 "2019-10-07T11:39:07Z")
Over the weekend I took some shots of the Moon. I wasn’t able to capture Saturn and the Moon together but none the less I still took some new lunar images. I used the food Food Camera to take the video with that made for very interesting photos. The heat waves once again made it almost impossible to take clear and close up shots of the Moon. Hopefully during the Winter when there is less heat radiating from the ground due to the snow and ice, the below images will be much more clear and crisp. ![LG71z29](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/a/3a0b0fc2f9fcecefa05bbf810147a6e957b892fb.jpeg) ![LG71z30](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/2/d22ab48b5683de675d9f93dff2c9e616947309f0.jpeg) ![LG71z31](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/d/9d3875078a6e1b81db6ca33660b49d02455af820.jpeg) ![LG71z32](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/9/0952d1fe897afe4942d961978f74b15fd290ed7b.jpeg) ![LG71z33](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/4/645f572e856d6de4708109661d895f42786d4ce6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/104 "2019-10-07T11:48:19Z")
After the Moon passed through some clouds and out of optimal shooting range, I turned the tube almost 80 degrees towards the night sky over me. I searched for something interesting while I worked on the camera settings. I finally came to this set of stars. Not certain which stars there are but the large one and smaller one directly below it are Main Sequence Stars, most likely F class. The two F class Main Sequence stars must be close as the light from both of them is a yellowish orange like our Sun. I looked up to try and see if I could find the star formation seen in the images above but I could see them with the naked eyed. Star chart comparison showing how immense our Sun is as well as showing just how small our Sun really is. [https://courses.lumenlearning.com/geophysical/chapter/star-classification/](https://courses.lumenlearning.com/geophysical/chapter/star-classification/) Star Chart showing all of the types of stars discovered so far in the Universe. > **[List of Different Star Types](http://www.astronomytrek.com/list-of-different-star-types/)** > > Discover all the main star types and some quick facts about their physical characteristics, including life cycle, mass, size, luminosity and temperature. ![Obj2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/f/5f8d383b81c120ef9891024f1e7e02c76842efd7.jpeg) I zoomed the lens in on my phone to try and get a better shot of the large star. The ring around the bright star has to be from the camera and how it processes the light. ![Obj21](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/e/5ef8be90193460efa23b2dcf22ea78a1352baaab.jpeg) Because in the next image, when you zoom in on the large star the ring is gone. ![Obj23](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/0/b013686f03d647ea1d26b627246e6d3086452d41.jpeg) Another image taken that shows slight star trails but does show most of the stars in the above image at a brighter luminescence. ![1006190047b](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/8/28f6a6d01991a5f84ed7f9fd079e0085f8bcf954.jpeg) Whatever star formation this was it was fast moving. I tried taking GiF’s and could only get maybe 10 seconds worth of GiF animation before the stars disappeared. Otherwise it took the star formation about :45 seconds to pass from the top of the eyepiece to the bottom of the eyepiece. Here is another image that when you zoom in on the larger star it looks like there is a ring around it. But this ring is angled 45 degrees to the ring in the obj23 image. I have noticed that in several images that there is a small reflection going around the star that is equal distance from the star at all times. The reflection could be a moon. ![Obj24PM1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/b/abe8d4a1a9ffe3371dd11a688642af287ce23dd0.jpeg) ![Obj24PM1a](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/9/29e1cc4555ae2f213fd88e966bdf7046d3c0e351.jpeg) ![Obj24PM1b](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/f/0f2e583ea0f67b81710c55b3a6462c9c93929868.jpeg) ![Obj24PM1c](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/0/301fe18919feef5e9865a73266f55163051a933f.jpeg) ![Obj24PM1d](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/1/b195e158716e664f2fe3cab1d624347481b30bdb.jpeg) I am going to have to say that least two moons orbit the star above based on the last image. I have pointed out two near perfectly circular black areas that the light from the star is being blocked by. A moon will always create a perfect black spot against the star that it is transiting across in front of. ![Obj24PM1e](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/9/19d110b1b523d52bfcf091978bf6353221bc0e73.jpeg) I won’t know for certain if the areas highlighted is a moon or two moons until I clarify which star it is. What is even more intriguing is that the symbol for Jediism can be seen in the lower left hand corner. This image has not been altered other than adding the two arrows. ![Jediism%20Symbol](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/7/27c4c39424b8fb456ddecc2cbda7fb608a2cd9c0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890/105 "2019-10-07T20:35:44Z")
Just in case you’re reading Dryson, be warned that he’s using a smartphone camera held against the visor of his telescope. This means that he’s picking internal reflections from his set-up, that he’s picking color noise from pixels (specially with the magnification he applies on the images through image-processing software which is not intended to preserve pixel integrity), that he’s using a ground telescope so the atmosphere causes blurriness (which contributes to color bleeding between pixels) and that among other things he’s claiming to have seen with his eyes Jupiter’s rings, which happen to be visible only with some of the largest telescopes on Earth (aka the Keck I and II) and their observation is usually carried on the infrarred since they’re extremely dark in visible light. Amateur astronomy is a nice hobby, but most of it consists of improving yourself, your equipment and your technique. Strapping a smartphone on a commercial telescope, use photoshop to zoom into the images so produced and claim you’re seeing moons orbiting stars might be fun but it isn’t exactly science. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-astronomy-club/177890.md?page=6)