# EVE Online dev team is understaffed **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 28, 2022, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593 "2022-07-28T07:03:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Forum\_Monkey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_monkey/32/328559_2.png) [@Forum\_Monkey](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/82 "2022-07-29T10:17:40Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > and the entire reasons why you think we need a new server ? Its CCP thinking - at least for China, for now. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/83 "2022-07-29T10:18:52Z")
> [@Forum\_Monkey](#): > > Its CCP thinking - at least for China, for now. And you just buy that “thinking” like a sheep. ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Monkey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_monkey/32/328559_2.png) [@Forum\_Monkey](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/84 "2022-07-29T10:19:58Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > And you just buy that “thinking” like a sheep. Na, i detailed quite accurately why i think this would greatly benefit EU/NA aswell. And without in need of slandering or personal attacks, like you do. ---
**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/85 "2022-07-29T10:22:23Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > It was within Eve’s rules Just because something is permitted doesn’t mean you _have_ to do it and ganking 3-months-old characters isn’t war, it’s a massacre. No honor in that. > [@Verlyn](#): > > if you didnt like it, and refused to find ways to play along with it, then no one forced you to stay Never said I didn’t like it. I got blown up by CONCORD for attacking an Orca not two days ago so I too like to fight but I don’t want to totally control a system like a Scrooge and blow up anyone that happens to pass through. Y’all went overboard with the ganking. Don’t complain now. > [@Verlyn](#): > > let alone complain LOUD I never complained about PvP or ganking so your vitriol isn’t aimed at the right person. ---
**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/86 "2022-07-29T10:25:54Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Cretin I love gankers’ tears. 😃 Moar please. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/87 "2022-07-29T10:27:29Z")
> [@Forum\_Monkey](#): > > Na, i think i detailed quite accurately why i think this would greatly benefit EU/NA aswell. > > And without in need of slandering or personal attacks, like you do. It will divide the current EU/NA population, Tranquility will become even more inactive and its economy will tank as there is only so much time one person can put into one game session per day … Let alone a game as complex as Eve … And if you cant even bother to respond to arguments placed in response to yours and just avoiding them by focusing on the personal attacks instead, then yes, you are that kind of special snowflake demographic responsible for killing the spirit of Eve for its entire lifetime. Personal attacks are well suited in that case. If you take them too personally, your problem, not mine. ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Monkey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_monkey/32/328559_2.png) [@Forum\_Monkey](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/88 "2022-07-29T10:28:47Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > or let alone complain LOUD enough that CCP would be pushed to make a special snowflake server “just for you”… > > Cretin. It is not only the safety settings, the new galaxy layout they showed, the new and upcoming content they announced and especially the fresh start is what it makes it so appealing. ---
**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/89 "2022-07-29T10:31:25Z")
Not only that but no one is saying you can’t play on both servers. One day you might feel you want to fight and the next you want to PvE. No biggie. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/90 "2022-07-29T10:34:40Z")
> [@Ursula\_Anders](#): > > Just because something is permitted doesn’t mean you _have_ to do it and ganking 3-months-old characters isn’t war, it’s a massacre. No honor in that. There was no “Honor” concept in Eve’s rules, that’s you making that up entirely and forcing that misconception of the game on its public. People like you have been around and doing this for pretty much as long as idiots have. > [@Ursula\_Anders](#): > > Never said I didn’t like it. > I got blown up by CONCORD for attacking an Orca not two days ago so I too like to fight but I don’t want to totally control a system like a Scrooge and blow up anyone that happens to pass through. > Y’all went overboard with the ganking. > Don’t complain now. Can you think of any ways to counter that problem creatively instead of just complaining about it just now ? > [@Ursula\_Anders](#): > > I never complained about PvP or ganking so your vitriol isn’t aimed at the right person. … lol > [@Ursula\_Anders](#): > > Maybe y’all should’ve thought of that when you decided to gank anything that moved. … > [@Ursula\_Anders](#): > > but I don’t want to totally control a system like a Scrooge and blow up anyone that happens to pass through. > Y’all went overboard with the ganking. You contradict yourself litterally in the same post. Do you think before typing at all ? ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/91 "2022-07-29T10:37:29Z")
> [@Ursula\_Anders](#): > > Not only that but no one is saying you can’t play on both servers. > One day you might feel you want to fight and the next you want to PvE. > No biggie. You refuse to even remotely imagine the implications of having 2 separate universes, or maybe your brain can’t. Either way, I dont give a f anymore. Have fun snowflakes. ---
**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/92 "2022-07-29T10:38:29Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Either way, I dont give a f anymore. > > Have fun snowflakes. Moar salt, please 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/93 "2022-07-29T10:42:37Z")
All that because of some stupid leader board on a website. Sad. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/94 "2022-07-29T10:48:06Z")
Wherever the Mentally Challenged chooses to look. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/95 "2022-07-29T10:48:31Z")
@Forum_Monkey The like is for providing a source and translation, and not because I actually like any of those changes. > [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > They will find with 0 ganking in highsec all their high sec players will get bored and either move to another part of space or consider eve won and leave the game after 6 months, will be interesting to see how it plays out. Well, it might have a better chance of working out over their. Don’t know. Not an expert on Chinese gaming culture and tastes. What I do know, however, is that differ from TQ players. For example, they are certainly more tolerant of P2W, and overwhelmingly supported Edencom during Invasions chapter 3, which might indicate an increased preference for stability. Long story short, I can’t say with confidence that it won’t work over there. If it does, however, I hope that CCP understands that there are major differences when it comes to the tastes and values of Serenity and TQ players. ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Monkey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_monkey/32/328559_2.png) [@Forum\_Monkey](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/96 "2022-07-29T10:50:28Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > You refuse to even remotely imagine the implications of having 2 separate universes, or maybe your brain can’t. We will see how the new server and the new rulset they are testing and polishing will turn out in china. Access is currently only handed out to specific players who need to apply for it, so they are very early in developement. But all the ideas they have shown off so far look very appealing and one just has to applaud them for their boldness. And i still can not get my head arround why your so against simply giving players freedom of choice and another option. _"YOU DONT LIKE GANKING YOU ARE NEVER ALLOWED TO PLAY EVE, NOT EVEN ON ANOTHER SERVER!!1!1! "_ Just why, give people what they want, let them pick and choose - in the end you will have more customers and more money in the bank. ---
**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/97 "2022-07-29T10:51:10Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Wherever the Mentally Challenged chooses to look. Moar salt, please 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Monkey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_monkey/32/328559_2.png) [@Forum\_Monkey](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/98 "2022-07-29T10:57:23Z")
This whole discussion reminds me about the doomsayers when WoW classic was announced… or LOTRO legendary servers… or Runescape 3 release… or oldschool Runescape re-release… _“splitting playerbase”_ _“noone wants it!”_ _“dead after 6 month!11!1”_ in the end they all were success stories. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/99 "2022-07-29T11:02:47Z")
> [@Forum\_Monkey](#): > > in the end they all were success stories. Wow Classic, a success ? Yeah, for like, a year at most. People realized their old-school nostalgia drug fix and now big majority already got bored and left. New iterations of games never solve an inherent cultural problem at base: That it’s “better to do with new” than to “think with what you already have”. The former is generally easier to consume than the latter, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Monkey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_monkey/32/328559_2.png) [@Forum\_Monkey](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/100 "2022-07-29T11:06:23Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Wow Classic, a success ? So successfull it set new twitch viewing records for months on end and so sucessfull they released BC classic and now just announced WOTLK classic release date, so yeah… pretty successfull indeed. [https://archive.esportsobserver.com/wow-classic-twitch-record/](https://archive.esportsobserver.com/wow-classic-twitch-record/) > **[World of Warcaft Classic drove subscriptions to record growth for a quarter](https://venturebeat.com/games/world-of-warcaft-classic-drove-subscriptions-to-record-growth-for-a-quarter/)** > > World of Warcraft Classic has been a big success to Activision Blizzard, with the company revealing today that the retro release has driven subscriptions. ---
**Author:** ![Oleg\_K77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oleg_k77/32/329549_2.png) [@Oleg\_K77](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oleg_K77)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593/101 "2022-07-29T11:15:22Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > Thats not what I mean ganking is a progression back step if no ganks happen then people keep progressing faster and faster till they reach the end. > > Eventually everyone is farming in high sec with abyssal officer fit paladins with no way to upgrade further. Gankers like to think they are keeping economy from inevitable collapse, but reality is a little different. zkill stats for June 22, Hi-sec losses: Overall: [4.53t](https://zkillboard.com/asearch/#%7B%22buttons%22:%5B%22togglefilters%22,%22custom%22,%22label-highsec%22,%22attackers-and%22,%22either-and%22,%22victims-and%22,%22sort-isk%22,%22sort-desc%22,%22page1%22,%22allinvolved%22%5D,%22dtstart%22:%222022-06-01%2000:00%22,%22dtend%22:%222022-06-30%2023:59%22%7D) NPC kills: [1.21t](https://zkillboard.com/asearch/#%7B%22buttons%22:%5B%22togglefilters%22,%22custom%22,%22label-highsec%22,%22label-npc%22,%22attackers-and%22,%22either-and%22,%22victims-and%22,%22sort-isk%22,%22sort-desc%22,%22page1%22,%22allinvolved%22%5D,%22dtstart%22:%222022-06-01%2000:00%22,%22dtend%22:%222022-06-30%2023:59%22%7D) Ganked: [308.7b](https://zkillboard.com/asearch/#%7B%22buttons%22:%5B%22togglefilters%22,%22custom%22,%22label-highsec%22,%22label-ganked%22,%22attackers-and%22,%22either-and%22,%22victims-and%22,%22sort-isk%22,%22sort-desc%22,%22page1%22,%22allinvolved%22%5D,%22dtstart%22:%222022-06-01%2000:00%22,%22dtend%22:%222022-06-30%2023:59%22%7D) Said that, I have no clue how it will turns out in the end, but glad they are trying it on China first. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-dev-team-is-understaffed/371593.md?page=6)