# EVE Online Ecosystem Outlook

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** official, devblog\
**Created:** [March 30, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809 "2020-03-30T18:10:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aernir\_Ridley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aernir_ridley/32/339667_2.png) [@Aernir\_Ridley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aernir_Ridley)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/41 "2020-03-30T19:25:51Z")

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What were you expecting? Formulas detailing exactly how ore is going to be distributed so certain groups could manipulate it like they’ve done with past updates? An exact list of changes so the community could work around them months before they even hit the testing phase? Be realistic here, this is a roadmap that will likely last the remainder of the year. We have the broad view, now as time moves on we’ll get more clarity on each point.

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**Author:** ![Solomon\_Iskander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solomon_iskander/32/496328_2.png) [@Solomon\_Iskander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solomon_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/42 "2020-03-30T19:26:25Z")

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Contract me your mining stuff. In Jita because I don’t want to work for it. Since you obviously feel that it will be useless. I will even pay you 0.01 ISK per ISK of Jita buy.

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**Author:** ![Aernir\_Ridley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aernir_ridley/32/339667_2.png) [@Aernir\_Ridley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aernir_Ridley)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/43 "2020-03-30T19:27:16Z")

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I direct you to my response to Stevens

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**Author:** ![Skia\_Aumer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skia_aumer/32/352848_2.png) [@Skia\_Aumer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skia_Aumer)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/44 "2020-03-30T19:28:20Z")

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What’s “Redistribution Phase”? I thought I understand it, as the name is self-explanatory, but after reading the blog I’m very confused.

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**Author:** ![Opionia\_Tek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/opionia_tek/32/425760_2.png) [@Opionia\_Tek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Opionia_Tek)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/45 "2020-03-30T19:28:28Z")

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Nothing about the cloaking devise? -\_-

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**Author:** ![GeeBee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geebee/32/443624_2.png) [@GeeBee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GeeBee)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/46 "2020-03-30T19:28:50Z")

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Further defining browned out systems

Applied daily a randomization of a percent of nullsec sovereign systems by region  
Systems affected by the brown out are available through in game map and api.

By doing so this creates deadzones and hotspots with the intel open for anyone to focus on certain systems.

Also being a daily Dynamic vs a quarterly will reduce stagnation in gameplay.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/47 "2020-03-30T19:30:17Z")

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What do cloaks have to do with resource scarcity?

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**Author:** ![Thonys\_Visser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thonys_visser/32/210828_2.png) [@Thonys\_Visser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thonys_Visser)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/48 "2020-03-30T19:30:29Z")

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well if botting and isking is a problem and those problems are in low and 0.0  
why do simple miners in high sec have to pay the price  
those hs capsuleers are paying every day  
why does hs has to be the victim of all of this over and over again  
if you have a problem in 0.0 and low  
keep the problem overthere

or give HS a rorquel too

its always the same story …punish the small guy first… and let the big guys escape …over and over …again.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/49 "2020-03-30T19:34:58Z")

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Randomization is bad, and tends to just result in people getting pissed off at the people who designed it that way. Instead, procedural systems that respond to player activity—or lack of activity—produce more competitive behaviors.

If it’s all random, then there’s no point going after someone else’s space, because any space you go after has just as much chance of being worthless as the space you no longer want.

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/50 "2020-03-30T19:37:04Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> but _destruction_ also needs to go up

I think this is the hardest question CCP have to answer, risk averse people are not suddenly going to go out and get their toys blown up because its now _even harder_ to replace them.

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**Author:** ![Meridim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridim/32/286186_2.png) [@Meridim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridim)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/51 "2020-03-30T19:37:26Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> Shorter devblog:
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> “We let things get out of control for a while, and the bamboo overgrew the yard. Trees got choked out, bushes were starved of sunlight, and all the grass we liked died off. We’re going

You forget the most important thing. They made buttload of cash while ‘letting things out of control for a while’. It’s insulting man!

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/52 "2020-03-30T19:38:37Z")

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Then those types of players shouldn’t be playing EVE…

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/53 "2020-03-30T19:39:30Z")

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🔴 No, it is not hard to answer. It is very easy to answer when it comes to Rorquals: You limit their numbers on the field and require barges and exhumers again. This will lead to more of this: [https://zkillboard.com/related/30004733/201811102100/](https://zkillboard.com/related/30004733/201811102100/)

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/54 "2020-03-30T19:40:39Z")

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There’s an element of that, but it’s not just ‘risk aversion’ at play. There are strategic concerns that impact the use of the biggest ships (which, of course, are the ones that **need** to blow up the most).

You can’t take or hold space without supercapitals.  
But you can’t build supercapitals unless you hold space.  
So from a _strategic_ perspective, you can’t afford to lose your supercapital fleet because if you do, you’re not getting back into null at this point.  
So if you can’t afford to lose the fleet, you can’t afford to seriously _risk_ the fleet.

And that’s not being ‘risk averse’, it’s being ‘not stupid’. Because the loss of those ships doesn’t just impact those pilots. It impacts all of a group’s subcap-only players, too. And the job of leadership is to look after the interests of the _whole_ group.

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**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/55 "2020-03-30T19:41:48Z")

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> [@Chan\_aar](#):
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> I think this is the hardest question CCP have to answer, risk averse people are not suddenly going to go out and get their toys blown up because its now _even harder_ to replace them.

I suggested a few posts above this, that it might not have to go up. It effectively is, as construction comes down.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/56 "2020-03-30T19:42:01Z")

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> [@Aernir\_Ridley](#):
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> What were you expecting? Formulas detailing exactly how ore is going to be distributed so certain groups could manipulate it like they’ve done with past updates? An exact list of changes so the community could work around them months before they even hit the testing phase? Be realistic here,

Can you explain to me why CCP put a graph for “Income” in their section labeled “Resource Redistribution Update”?  
Is that “realistic” enough for you?

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**Author:** ![Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wade_deadpool_willson/32/169216_2.png) [@Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wade_Deadpool_Willson)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/57 "2020-03-30T19:43:00Z")

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That’s usuall crap the CCP feeds mentaly blocked, says nothing, means nothing, pseudo intellectual babble that forum trash trolls would die for and talk over for decades. Some beatifull red dots 🔴 🔴 🔴 🔴 🔴 for you CCP for pulling together this, this… 🔴 lol.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/58 "2020-03-30T19:43:24Z")

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This article makes some sense to me. It looks alot like the idea of “chaos” that was promised last year.

Instead of having static elements, we have complex control loops that make adaptation an active state instead of done once and for all. Maybe this will prevent the use of a static bunkered region like Delve ?

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**Author:** ![Hetty\_Lang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hetty_lang/32/174279_2.png) [@Hetty\_Lang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hetty_Lang)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/59 "2020-03-30T19:44:32Z")

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CCP you bunch of maggots, could you of at least of waited until Tuesday to put the changes in, now i have a butt ton of near worthless moon ore

Despicable

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**Author:** ![Meridim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridim/32/286186_2.png) [@Meridim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridim)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/228809/60 "2020-03-30T19:45:09Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> This article makes some sense to me. It looks alot like the idea of “chaos” that was promised last year.

Yes if u mean ‘chaos’ in explaining things. Then, def it’s chaos.

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