# Eve Online is just too big! **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Tags:** pve, pvp\ **Created:** [November 27, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459 "2024-11-27T20:54:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/21 "2024-11-28T07:02:03Z")
> [@Dyver\_Phycad](#): > > which allowed you to do weird stuff without risking everything you have. More important: you were able to conquer one and _lock_ enemy assets there for quite some time. Same with the old Staging POSes - if you could attack one, bring it down, place your own tower and bubble it, you had trapped _all_ logged off caps and supercaps of the enemy until he found a way to re-conquer that spot. That forces conflict, that forces fights, that leads to escalations. The current citadel mechanics with their magic asset safety teleportation is just paralyzing the game. ---
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/22 "2024-11-28T07:08:33Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > More important: you were able to conquer one and _lock_ enemy assets there for quite some time. The important thing here is “lock them” . They were not destroyed, not moved or had to be evacuated desperately. They were just locked in place. You could still reconquer the outpost to get them back or join the new holders with alts to get them back or even properly sell them to the new holders. The system offered much more positive gameplay possibilities than citadels do. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/23 "2024-11-28T08:18:29Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > Some at that time speculated it would be a 1 way trrip until they could build another on the other side. Wouldn’t that be an interesting twist… ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/24 "2024-11-28T13:44:14Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Conflict died out a long time ago. No…it didn’t. There have, for example, been so many battles fought by Absolute Order lately that my alts in that corp haven’t had time to attend them all. And this char, which mainly suspect hunts, is active a lot and increasingly getting the skills and courage to go for larger targets. I particularly want to go for the baiters…and then end up being the solo scourge of lowsec. My real Eve heroes are the people with 10,000 lowsec solo kills. Conflict isn’t dead. It’s the only reason I am in Eve…and I think anyone can find conflict quite easily. ---
**Author:** ![Conference\_Elitest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/conference_elitest/32/441863_2.png) [@Conference\_Elitest](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Conference_Elitest)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/25 "2024-11-28T13:57:35Z")
That sounds great now new players can be jammed on a short bus elbow to elbow with all of the big boys with no ships isk or sp to compete. I can see people uninstalling the game about an hour in. Besides what’s the point of a space game if you can’t explore space? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/26 "2024-11-28T14:14:45Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > _Some_ people. I actually met more people that were interested in the economic and industrial part, or more precise, the chances EVE promised to ‘build your own little sandcastle with your own little group of friends’. Explore this vast universe, find out what you can do and finding _your own place_ in this huge thriving world. > > I also met _a lot_ more people interested in smallscale piracy than in big fleetfights, because that is where individual skill, knowledge, tactics and performance matters. I agree with the latter…as that’s increasingly the route I am taking. I’ve learned vastly more in 3 months of solo suspect hunting than I ever did in 3 years of flying doctrine ships into battle. But I also think that had CCP not nerfed the Procurer back in November 2021 I’d probably have spent the past 3 years being a miner…or more likely have left due to that. People get sucked into mining, especially carebears like I originally was, and that threshold of stepping up to do combat never gets reached. I suspect more people fade away from the boredom of that than ever do from ganking or space being too big or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/27 "2024-11-28T15:48:05Z")
![IMG_7112](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/e/5/8e52b6628e25a2bf4e3472809a1fa29b6da03829.jpeg) It’s about that time to turn that key again on their bulldozer! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/28 "2024-11-28T16:19:50Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > bulldozer So many `frozen` corpses. 👀 ---
**Author:** ![Conference\_Elitest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/conference_elitest/32/441863_2.png) [@Conference\_Elitest](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Conference_Elitest)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/29 "2024-11-28T16:29:43Z")
I’m more about the market place, proud to say I hold the front line for Plex at 6 million a piece. This game is all about making money. Set up shop got a few drops and got some milk money. Rose from the rocks, now I got that socks made of silk money. Flip and scoop, Scoop and Flip Sell Sell Sell Isk To Plex, Plex To isk Trade Hub warfare is the only pvp that matters I don’t even need to undock while I rake it in. @Chad_Frostpacker ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/30 "2024-11-28T17:17:37Z")
> [@Conference\_Elitest](#): > > This game is all about making money. To each his own. For me it’s about collecting stuff. And I have a ■■■■ of a lot of stuff right now. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Conference\_Elitest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/conference_elitest/32/441863_2.png) [@Conference\_Elitest](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Conference_Elitest)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/31 "2024-11-28T18:47:41Z")
What do you collect ? I want to be a good SKINR artist at some day. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/32 "2024-11-28T18:58:02Z")
> [@Conference\_Elitest](#): > > What do you collect ? A little bit of everything. Mostly ships these days. Though I’ll probably sell them off when I hit two trillion worth and focus on something else. Maybe rare skins or fashion. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/33 "2024-11-28T20:38:33Z")
Carebears collects ships, but he’s too afraid to undock any of them. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/34 "2024-11-28T20:49:59Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Carebears… …fly gankships and hide in high sec. FTFY Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Fatt\_Albert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fatt_albert/32/442297_2.png) [@Fatt\_Albert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fatt_Albert)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/35 "2024-11-28T20:56:14Z")
@Mr_Epeen The undock button is the one on the right, Chief Carebear o7 ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/36 "2024-11-28T22:04:51Z")
\*Calm Down Miner \* There are no letter I in we which means all that we can as a Community don’t agree with most of what you just said! ---
**Author:** ![Fatt\_Albert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fatt_albert/32/442297_2.png) [@Fatt\_Albert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fatt_Albert)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/37 "2024-11-28T22:32:30Z")
> [@Conference\_Elitest](#): > > Trade Hub warfare is the only pvp that matters I don’t even need to undock while I rake it in > [@Conference\_Elitest](#): > > Besides what’s the point of a space game if you can’t explore space? Gosh you’re full of it. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/38 "2024-11-28T23:51:55Z")
> [@Fatt\_Albert](#): > > The undock button is the one on the right, Chief Carebear o7 Market PvP is a thing, too… ---
**Author:** ![Conference\_Elitest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/conference_elitest/32/441863_2.png) [@Conference\_Elitest](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Conference_Elitest)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/39 "2024-11-29T01:14:39Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > There are no letter I in we which means all that we can as a Community don’t agree with most of what you just said! What? What ?? What ??? ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/40 "2024-11-29T02:05:28Z")
> [@Conference\_Elitest](#): > > What? What ?? What ??? \*Calm Down Miner \* > [@Conference\_Elitest](#): > > I’m more > [@Conference\_Elitest](#): > > I hold > [@Conference\_Elitest](#): > > I got > [@Conference\_Elitest](#): > > I don’t even There is no I in we… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459.md?page=3)