# Eve Online is just too big! **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Tags:** pve, pvp\ **Created:** [November 27, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459 "2024-11-27T20:54:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/61 "2024-11-30T22:38:37Z")
Must wait for the next thread to explain my thoughts on that subject as that will be phase two of our master plan. / > [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > Players fight if they **1)** enjoy fighting, and **2)** think a fight will result in some benefit for them. Sounds similar to how Highsec currently operates with Gankers and fighting miners will result in some benefit for them. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Rochard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_rochard/32/373864_2.png) [@John\_Rochard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Rochard)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/62 "2024-11-30T22:41:29Z")
The universe is too big? Okay then maybe the map is also too 3D as well? Let’s make a 2D simple map like this one for example. ![image 1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/3/c/43c50b2a7beb11a0e4209d2747b5d869ab4ae48b.jpeg) That seems simple and a lot smaller. Then we can also reduce the content and cut the fat out of the system as well by shrinking the distance traveled from jump gate to jump gate. That is still not enough, we have far too many ships as well. Let’s consolidate them by 50% eliminating the middle class ships. We jump from frigate to cruiser to battleship to titan. Then as the game is still too soupy and need more thickening, let’s merge the Minmatar into the Federation and merge the Amarr into the Caldari. Maybe CCP should hire in Chris Whitside as he did this real well for so many game companies. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Conference\_Elitest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/conference_elitest/32/441863_2.png) [@Conference\_Elitest](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Conference_Elitest)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/63 "2024-11-30T22:54:41Z")
Like @YHWH_Is_Lord is proposing we take it down to maybe two constellations on a two d map. Just like earth the universe is flat. Now maybe just maybe I’d like to propose a middle constellation with only 1 Ice Belt, for 32k players. And because it’s two D we will make it a long line like A-B-C and it can be gate camped outside of A and C. I really like the direction our shared vision is taking us. @John_Rochard ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/64 "2024-11-30T22:57:12Z")
Not to that extreme though why are there 100’s of static asteroid belts that leads to overwhelming supply of materials uncontested across all of New Eden. ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/65 "2024-11-30T23:00:16Z")
@Conference_Elitest Just trap the miners in the middle… yeah, that could work nicely for ![1000003312](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/d/6/0d612699bdc17d1eccd911e6527d539ff38bfcf1.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Conference\_Elitest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/conference_elitest/32/441863_2.png) [@Conference\_Elitest](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Conference_Elitest)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/66 "2024-11-30T23:06:04Z")
Exactly 💯 Now just picture 10,000 man Tornado gate camps all running Tremor. Just getting to the ice belt would take balls of steel. Combat so intense it fries your graphics card and sets your comp on fire. That would put this game back on track. ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/67 "2024-11-30T23:11:59Z")
> [@Conference\_Elitest](#): > > Combat so intense it fries your graphics card and sets your comp on fire Hottest game on the market! ![1000003314](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/5/9/d59a4ade24c60bdbfc14830ce387f749ba69e492.gif) > [@Conference\_Elitest](#): > > Now just picture 10,000 man Tornado gate camps all running Tremor. Permanent TiDi > [@Conference\_Elitest](#): > > That would put this game back on track. CCP would love that destruction! ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/68 "2024-11-30T23:32:19Z")
> [@LordOdysseus](#): > > There was a recent 6 hours EVE documentary Recent? Link, please. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/69 "2024-11-30T23:32:53Z")
Bring back the real danger as per @MB_ThePhotographer and many other hardened veterans witnessed. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/70 "2024-11-30T23:38:48Z")
Define “real danger”? ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/71 "2024-11-30T23:39:40Z")
> [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > Link, please. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/0/3/4033feee6bea6b8e4881d9d94ad672bee6a6c0d9.jpeg "EVE Online | Down the Rabbit Hole") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCSeISYcoyI) ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/72 "2024-11-30T23:42:37Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > Define “real danger”? I was not there to have witnessed, only read stories about how dangerous it was back before EveOnline’s learning curve had begun to flatten out due to carebeer whining CSM members. ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/73 "2024-11-30T23:52:24Z")
Thank you ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/74 "2024-12-01T01:16:33Z")
bumped this into [Player Features & Ideas - EVE Online Forums](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/technology-research/player-features-ideas/74) ---
**Author:** ![Conference\_Elitest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/conference_elitest/32/441863_2.png) [@Conference\_Elitest](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Conference_Elitest)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/75 "2024-12-01T02:00:04Z")
Bro we done did it, even ISD recognizes our vision for constant conflict. Great work sir, I guess we can pat ourselves on the back as true innovators. 💪 @YHWH_Is_Lord ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/76 "2024-12-01T03:23:11Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > hide in high sec. Don’t hide in high sec. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/77 "2024-12-01T03:40:02Z")
I don’t think there was anything wrong with the size of EVE in the past? 60k and growing. They purposely shot themselves in the foot telling us EVE grew too fast. I can’t figure out their thinking. Now their begging for numbers so hard, you don’t even have to log into the game to get an award, just log on. Make of it as you will. Edit: For the now long-gone punctuation police. I miss them as well… ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/78 "2024-12-01T07:48:55Z")
> [@Conference\_Elitest](#): > > Great work sir, I guess we can pat ourselves on the back as true innovators Let history reflect our selfless contribution to the game with one ISD-tied hand behind our back and CCP’s denial of the current situation. Our work is done here, colega! o7 ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/79 "2024-12-01T12:12:01Z")
Yeah-Nah this thread is done and sent to the round file. / we could call it hanger 13 ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459/80 "2024-12-01T13:11:02Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Yeah-Nah this thread is done and sent to the round file If you feel so then let it be. > [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > we could call it hanger 13 Or hangar 13, up to you. o7 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-is-just-too-big/469459.md?page=5)