# EVE Online: Lifeblood - General feedback **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** lifeblood, official\ **Created:** [October 24, 2017, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643 "2017-10-24T09:41:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/123 "2017-11-07T16:31:24Z")
Before the patch the rig 2% and 4% where added to the base value of the station and not multipled. So either CCP changed something and did not put a release out about it or their is glitch. Either way I would love for a Dev to look into this. ---
**Author:** ![Vivianne\_Athonille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vivianne_athonille/32/512723_2.png) [@Vivianne\_Athonille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vivianne_Athonille)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/124 "2017-11-07T16:37:31Z")
The rig bonus being “added” didn’t change, but the value of the rigs were reduced by 1 for both tiers. This was published. The 2% bonus of the Athanor is applied multiplicatively. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/125 "2017-11-07T16:46:19Z")
Boy you just don’t get it do you?! The Athanor as stated adds 2% bonus to refining yield for all varient of Ore and Ice. So 50+2=52 not 51! If CCP is going to multiple that 2% bonus to refining yield for all varient of Ore and Ice, they should have put out a release/statement about it but they did not. If the Refineries are going to multiple the 2%/4% station bonus and not add them, it is not worth reprocessing ore at 51%/52% when we used to have 54%. CCP has really screwed the pooch! ---
**Author:** ![Vivianne\_Athonille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vivianne_athonille/32/512723_2.png) [@Vivianne\_Athonille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vivianne_Athonille)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/126 "2017-11-07T19:41:17Z")
No Rig + Athanor = 50% \* 1.02 = 51% T1 Rig + Athanor = 51% \* 1.02 = 52.02% T2 Rig + Athanor = 53% \* 1.02 = 54.06% Where’s the problem? Looks to me that we actually received a buff to refining without rigs. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/127 "2017-11-07T20:09:48Z")
See here > **[\[Lifeblood\] Refineries, Moon Drills and the Extraction Process](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/178)** > > Well, without rigs the base value for the Tatara is 51% as 2% is also a multiplicative factor (0.5x1.02 = 0.51) - same as for other modifiers for reprocessing. Similar for the Tatara: 52% base, if no rigs are installed (0.5x1.04 = 0.52). The Athanor... ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/128 "2017-11-07T23:24:45Z")
That is total BS! Their is no point in building Refineries for 51%/52%! ---
**Author:** ![Althalus\_Stenory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/althalus_stenory/32/429792_2.png) [@Althalus\_Stenory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Althalus_Stenory)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/129 "2017-11-08T03:37:49Z")
then put a t2 rig and get 54%, which is better than what you got until now. See, found a solution. Too expensive, or still have a reason to complain ? Then don’t build any and use someone’s refinery, as many player will be pleased to build some and make others use them 😉 > [@](#): > > The Athanor as stated adds 2% bonus to refining yield for all varient of Ore and Ice. So 50+2=52 not 51 Actually, it’s not written “adds”, it’s written “2% bonus” which can be interpreted however you want. Usually, when we look at the whole game, “XX% bonus” stated on something in the game is most of the time multiplicative, not additive. ---
**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/130 "2017-11-08T07:29:41Z")
Why does the Agency keep collecting points for the Crimson Harvest event beyond 400 when I cannot get anything for these points? Shouldn’t that thing reset to 0 so that I can start collecting and get rewards again? ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/131 "2017-11-08T12:00:25Z")
You forgot CONCORD… 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Ivana\_Voce](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivana_voce/32/73690_2.png) [@Ivana\_Voce](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivana_Voce)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/132 "2017-11-09T18:52:08Z")
Searching contracts for specific item returns all items on contract. ---
**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/133 "2017-11-12T12:58:52Z")
Blood Raider FOB NPC attacking CONCORD on gates? Is that intentional? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/134 "2017-11-12T13:58:32Z")
I hope so! THE TIME IS NOW, SISTERS AND BROTHERS LET THE GATES FLOW WITH THE DIVINE CLARET ---
**Author:** ![Vesta\_Karr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vesta_karr/32/37220_2.png) [@Vesta\_Karr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vesta_Karr)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/135 "2017-11-12T17:42:48Z")
CCP, Please give us a time frame for the buyback program for the old moon mining stuff, and what will be included in the buyback program (moon harvest array, silo, coupling array, simple reactor, complex reactor…)? ---
**Author:** ![Fabulous\_Rod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fabulous_rod/32/34799_2.png) [@Fabulous\_Rod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fabulous_Rod)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/136 "2017-11-14T13:32:12Z")
I just came back and i’m not sure when the new UI voice changed, but it really sounds like ■■■■ and awkward. I really don’t like the more musical voice that has replaced the old UI voice. ---
**Author:** ![Maenth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maenth/32/272448_2.png) [@Maenth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maenth)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/137 "2017-11-18T04:48:16Z")
I just had this experience: a bookmark location to an unanchored & removed structure won’t respond to a right-click to produce the menu it’s supposed to WHILE in that system ---
**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/138 "2017-11-18T12:59:21Z")
> [@Maenth](#): > > I just had this experience: a bookmark location to an unanchored & removed structure won’t respond to a right-click to produce the menu it’s supposed to WHILE in that system Not sure that’s anything to do with Lifeblood, unless it’s a new glitch that Lifeblood introduced? Anyway, the Citadel I used to do my Compressing at got blown to bits a couple of weeks ago by a fleet of Rattlesnakes, and the bookmark I have for that does the same, no right click response at all, just a dead bookmark. ---
**Author:** ![Marie\_Lavoux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marie_lavoux/32/369284_2.png) [@Marie\_Lavoux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marie_Lavoux)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/139 "2017-11-19T17:22:20Z")
Havens still breaking on site completion. Been months on this Site will not despawn till after downtime. EBR-138504 1 out of 20 sites breaking. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/140 "2017-11-19T23:48:43Z")
> [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](#): > > I just had this experience: a bookmark location to an unanchored & removed structure won’t respond to a right-click to produce the menu it’s supposed to WHILE in that system > > Not sure that’s anything to do with Lifeblood, unless it’s a new glitch that Lifeblood introduced? Anyway, the Citadel I used to do my Compressing at got blown to bits a couple of weeks ago by a fleet of Rattlesnakes, and the bookmark I have for that does the same, no right click response at all, just a dead bookmark. That issue (if it is one) existed before Lifeblood, it started with Citadels. If you make a manual bookmark of your location next to the structure, it will work. If you bookmark the structure itself, the bookmark won’t function. There was no such issue with POS. Could be that the bookmark system is looking for the Structure object with x,y,z coordinates, but can’t find it (which would be new afaik) or simply a little bug due to the spatial character of a Structure vs. the point in space, which could confuse the pre-warp routine. Who knows. Maybe even intended by CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/141 "2017-11-20T00:01:48Z")
@Sindara_T_Soni @zluq_zabaa It is not a bug, it is a feature™ ---
**Author:** ![BalticBeast14](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balticbeast14/32/242877_2.png) [@BalticBeast14](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BalticBeast14)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643/142 "2017-11-20T20:18:06Z")
To CCP : I play way less after ligeblood expansion. It surprised me, and I expected the opposite insted, but that is the way it is… Resource wars are a joke, that is no content for me. I’m not involved in moon mining, again pretty much nothing, I spent some thoughts on ship rebabance… ok, public fleets kinda died after the expansion, ať least in my timezone. So like it or not, for me this sucks BIG way other than that I have different wallpaper in sign in screen… So I revert to exploration which I started EVE with and which I like… please dont nerf it !!! Yours Baltic [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-lifeblood-general-feedback/33643.md?page=8)