# EVE Online Quadrants Announcement **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 7, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403 "2020-01-07T18:29:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/61 "2020-01-09T09:26:56Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > It is still outrageous that paying customers have to pay even more for clothing items. You’re an entitled idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/62 "2020-01-09T09:27:52Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > It says in the EULA/TOS that I am paying subscription for the access to the game client. Clothing is part of the game client and thus I am already paying for it by the subscription. You’re a huge entitled idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/63 "2020-01-09T09:34:02Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > Titans, T2 BPO and clothing are all part of the client. Titans and T2 BPO can be access freely by playing the game and no extra RL money is involved to get them. Clothing cannot be accessed freely and extra RL money is involved to make them accessible. You’re an enormous entitled idiot. NES items can be bought ingame for ISK. FFS! ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Dopamine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_dopamine/32/280835_2.png) [@CCP\_Dopamine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Dopamine)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/64 "2020-01-09T09:40:57Z")
> [@CCP\_Dopamine](#): > > you can expect monthly releases **with smaller game updates added to EVE Online in-between** These are still planned 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/65 "2020-01-09T11:13:03Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > You’re an entitled idiot. > [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > You’re a huge entitled idiot. > [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > You’re an enormous entitled idiot. NES items can be bought ingame for ISK. FFS! I know you can’t be that dense so thanks for proving just how much of a worthless troll you really are. You know damn well that other than the freebies that CCP gives out for events, all NES items are originally purchased from the NES with PLEX which is paid for with real life cash. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/66 "2020-01-09T11:53:08Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > You know damn well that other than the freebies that CCP gives out for events, all NES items are originally purchased from the NES with PLEX which is paid for with real life cash. That’s not the point. The idiot’s argument is he wants the stuff for free (is entitled to it because he pays a sub) because he can not buy it with ISK, while he actually can. Now apologize. EDIT: still no ingame reply. You really are a coward, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/67 "2020-01-09T12:25:40Z")
[https://updates.eveonline.com/coming/winter/](https://updates.eveonline.com/coming/winter/) THATS ALL FOR NEW YEAR 2020? 💩 There will be only some janitoring I suppose, these quadrants. What would you think after such a vague news in updates as presented for 2020? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/68 "2020-01-09T12:39:18Z")
Vague announcements and not even bothering to update their own updates page. It seems that CCP have really given up. 😟 ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/69 "2020-01-09T12:57:03Z")
> [@marVLs](#): > > perfect scheme It wasn’t perfect though. Some changes that were almost finished but missed the deadline would have to be held back for the next expansion despite being finished months before. > [@marVLs](#): > > I think that CCP should invest more in eve by firstly redesign UI and make NPE really good They’ve been focusing on these two things for like 5 consecutive years. The ui is better in someways (not all) but the npe is reportedly worse. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/70 "2020-01-09T13:54:17Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Some changes that were almost finished but missed the deadline would have to be held back for the next expansion despite being finished months before. That problem was removed with point releases when we still had expansion. It was also never a real problem. CCP kept patching things after the big expansions just like they do now. The real issue were egos, as CCP stated themselves, because some Devs would fear their precious little project would not make it into the big release and thus they rushed development. CCP changed the cadence several times to remove this pressure; however, the quality of released features has not improved at all. 😂 > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > but the npe is reportedly worse. I would really like to know who says that all the time. I mean, in the first 10 years EVE grew with an even “worse” NPE (some say it didn’t exist) and yet the NPE we have now should be worse? The NPE tells people what they can do in EVE, it tells them the controls, some basic mechanics, some starter points into more intricate subjects like industry, missions, exploration and even PVP (in the military career agent path) and how the UI works. What else are people expecting from an introduction into EVE, where you are supposed to forge your own path? These constant changes and complaints about the NPE feel more like that no one knows at all what they want and they just keep contradicting themselves continuously. All the while I cannot see differences to other introductions in other games. They also tell you how to control the game, how to use some special features without going too much into detail, how to deal with some situations but by far not all possible situations (EVE, by contrast, covers a ton of different things in the career agents that are possible in EVE) and they give you the basic information to get started and build up and advance your knowledge as you unlock new skills. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/dwv2pv/when\_the\_new\_player\_experience\_fails\_spectacularly/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/dwv2pv/when_the_new_player_experience_fails_spectacularly/) Take this for instance: Last I looked the NPE does not cover fitting at all. Why would it? You see the information on what a ship can do and what bonuses it has in the Information window. You are supposed to draw your own conclusions. Witcher 3’s introduction, for instance, also does not tell me how I should fit my character. I’m sure there are some poor souls out there that try to mix heavy with light armor because it looks fancy. They learn that this does not work and investigate why it does not. That is not a failure of the NPE. Moreover, now the Fitting Window UI even has warnings when you fit the “wrong” modules to a certain ship, which should give newbies and clueless veterans the necessary incentives to investigate things before they undock an embarrassing vessel layout. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/71 "2020-01-09T14:19:43Z")
> [@CCP\_Dopamine](#): > > I can confirm that there are no plans for any sort of a Battle Pass. Yet … ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/72 "2020-01-09T17:16:38Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > I would really like to know who says that all the time. I mean, in the first 10 years EVE grew with an even “worse” NPE (some say it didn’t exist) and yet the NPE we have now should be worse? I think it was ccp hilmar (don’t have a link right now). And i imagine it means to say less new players stick around now than before. When some people say the ‘npe didn’t exist’ it just means they don’t know what an npe is. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/73 "2020-01-09T22:37:50Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > EDIT: still no ingame reply. You really are a coward, aren’t you? Let’s get something straight you little pissass punk, you challenged me after I made a comment to somebody else, all attempts for contact is on you, including travel… Anyway, I’m tired of your little bullsh\*t troll comments and am now reporting you for harassment, stalking and pseudo threats of physical violence. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/74 "2020-01-09T22:52:12Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/b/9ba775e3597ad2200061217f828370cc050733da.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/75 "2020-01-10T14:45:46Z")
> [@erg\_cz](#): > > > Maybe you’ll even be able to bring your Drake…? > > So do not expect much of a change, IMHO. Since they feel the need to add such comment to the announcement… I mean, this meme is ancient, nothing wrong with having it there 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/76 "2020-01-10T20:31:39Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Let’s get something straight you little pissass punk, you challenged me after I made a comment to somebody else, all attempts for contact is on you, including travel… > > Anyway, I’m tired of your little bullsh\*t troll comments and am now reporting you for harassment, stalking and pseudo threats of physical violence. Now I am really scared! It is you who threatened me with fysical violence, and I just keep calling you out on it so everybody can see what a ■■■■■■■ pussy you are. Put that in your report as well and see how it goes. But I am pretty sure you are too big a coward to actual put a report in. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/77 "2020-01-10T20:32:08Z")
Monty Python? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/78 "2020-01-10T21:10:43Z")
Of course, it’s The Batley Townswomens’ Guild presentation of the Battle of Pearl Harbor. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Voice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_voice/32/386683_2.png) [@The\_Voice](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Voice)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2020, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/79 "2020-01-11T11:09:30Z")
Maybe CCP start adding stuff to the game instead of constantly nerfing stuff people already paid for. Feels like your out of ideas the last year and are constantly searching how to increase plex sales. Well, make a better game. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2020, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403/80 "2020-01-11T11:12:47Z")
> [@The\_Voice](#): > > make a better game Such a small thing, but perfectly true. Also probably a lot harder than it sounds. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-quadrants-announcement/210403.md?page=5)