# EVE Online to go native on macOS! **URL:** \ **Category:** Mac OS\ **Tags:** native-mac\ **Created:** [December 4, 2020, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578 "2020-12-04T14:04:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/83 "2021-02-12T14:49:36Z")
So are we on Linux. ---
**Author:** ![Falmic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/falmic/32/327891_2.png) [@Falmic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Falmic)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/84 "2021-02-13T23:37:52Z")
Sad to say, but dev less care about linux than Macs ;p ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/85 "2021-02-14T09:39:44Z")
MacOS is based on BSD and other open source stuff ---
**Author:** ![Funk\_Monk\_Hugo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/funk_monk_hugo/32/256609_2.png) [@Funk\_Monk\_Hugo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Funk_Monk_Hugo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/86 "2021-02-14T16:17:35Z")
Just stopping by to show my support in a native Mac client! ---
**Author:** ![Falmic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/falmic/32/327891_2.png) [@Falmic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Falmic)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/87 "2021-02-15T07:59:24Z")
But it have more ‘market share’ than ‘desktop’ linux will ever have. that’s why you can see much more dev’s support for it. im not say about eve devs, but all gaming devs. and don’t forget - bsd is unix, not linux ---
**Author:** ![Nora\_Kitty\_Pahk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nora_kitty_pahk/32/381464_2.png) [@Nora\_Kitty\_Pahk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nora_Kitty_Pahk)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/88 "2021-02-16T23:23:17Z")
@CCP_Caffeine Can you share anything on what kind of performance we can expect with this native client? What are you seeing with the client in development at this time? Since I work on a Mac, I took my PC apart and never took it out of storage after moving a couple months ago. Now I’m keeping my setup Mac-only, so I’m really, truly hoping to see a great performance with EVE Online client, esp. on Apple Silicon Macs. (Lack of good gaming rig and the current Wine client rigged with myriads of issues are severely affecting my EVE playtime lately.) ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Caffeine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_caffeine/32/387016_2.png) [@CCP\_Caffeine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Caffeine)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/89 "2021-02-21T15:53:13Z")
> [@Nora\_Kitty\_Pahk](#): > > @CCP_Caffeine Can you share anything on what kind of performance we can expect with this native client? What are you seeing with the client in development at this time? Not yet - but it’s not because I’m trying to avoid the issue. We’re simply at the development phase, with plenty of work for us to tackle. Any performance measurements I give now could change based on development work. I’m sure you can understand that I don’t want to give any figures that are not reflective of what the final product will be. Suffice to say, we want the performance to be the best it can be and it’s something which is being monitored closely. ---
**Author:** ![Vapor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vapor/32/356995_2.png) [@Vapor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vapor)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/91 "2021-02-27T11:41:03Z")
I’m drooling more each day in anticipation, and also to test and bug test, like everyone else! I’ve currently got the CMD+TAB between characters issue of the disappearing ship and cloak timer and inability to warp or do anything etc. Don’t know if this is a Mac bug that doesn’t occur on Windows, I don’t see many people complaining about it. ---
**Author:** ![Avaria\_Kamakuza](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaria_kamakuza/32/461918_2.png) [@Avaria\_Kamakuza](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaria_Kamakuza)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/92 "2021-03-03T11:04:49Z")
Hey dear CCP Team, any new Information about native Client or need Closed Beta Testers? so pm me for it i have iMac 2020 Edition thx Mario ---
**Author:** ![Ajaqa\_Chajij](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ajaqa_chajij/32/472957_2.png) [@Ajaqa\_Chajij](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ajaqa_Chajij)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/93 "2021-03-04T17:48:23Z")
You Cmd-Tab into a different client and then things are wonky until you press & release Cmd once? Yes, that happens here, too… hitting Cmd once after every client switch is something I’ll probably do for a long time even if the native client shouldn’t have that problem… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mattimus9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mattimus9/32/477444_2.png) [@mattimus9](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mattimus9)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/94 "2021-03-04T21:00:02Z")
Happens to be all the time! It looks an extra key over the mouse actions, very annoying so that will at least be solved on a native version 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Vapor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vapor/32/356995_2.png) [@Vapor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vapor)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/95 "2021-03-05T12:34:11Z")
Indeed I’ve found that frustrating for a couple of years now however my issue is if I cmd tab to an another character, while the first character is jumping gate (or in warp and about to jump on contact), when I cmd tab back to him, he’s in the next system but frozen/partially disconnected, with an overview of the previous system. Cant warp to anything, cant select anything, cant move and ship is invisible on grid. No cloak timer. Only solution I’ve found is to log out and back in. Even safe log doesn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Caffeine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_caffeine/32/387016_2.png) [@CCP\_Caffeine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Caffeine)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/96 "2021-03-05T16:21:20Z")
_Some_ of the input issues are due to OS shortcut clashes, which then cause issues with Wine. This means it has difficulty in realising the true status of a key (sometimes the ‘stuck’ issue being reported). Other issues are just due to the OS / Wine / Game layers that get crossed - if any of them has an issue, it gives a poor experience. I’ve noticed this in particular when the system is under heavy load. We’ve been doing a bit of a dive into input the last few days, including rewriting some core bits of it (like default shortcuts). When we have a public test, I’ll be keen to hear comments about input / shortcuts, as I know there has been weirdness with the Wine client. ---
**Author:** ![Caffeine\_Coma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caffeine_coma/32/355695_2.png) [@Caffeine\_Coma](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caffeine_Coma)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/97 "2021-03-07T17:19:13Z")
Try moving the window and see if it comes back to life. Reported this bug a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/98 "2021-03-10T07:57:00Z")
> [@Ajaqa\_Chajij](#): > > You Cmd-Tab into a different client and then things are wonky until you press & release Cmd once? Yes, that happens here, too Actually, the problem happens when switching _out_ of the client rather than when switching _in_, but you only notice it when activating the client again _after having previously switched out using Cmd-Tab_. When switching out, the client registers the key down event, but it doesn’t get the key up event that happens when the Cmd key is released _after_ having switched out. When you come back to that client, it thinks the Cmd key is still pressed and doesn’t change that state until you press it again so it gets the key up event. That’s why the problem seems to happen most of the times, but not always, because it only happens when you return to a client you had previously switched out of using Cmd-Tab. It doesn’t happen when you Cmd-Tab to a client for the first time, nor when you switch back to a client you had previously switched out of by other means (i.e. by clicking another window). ---
**Author:** ![Arkhis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arkhis/32/374354_2.png) [@Arkhis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arkhis)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/99 "2021-03-14T12:49:58Z")
@CCP_Caffeine any updates when beta testing would be available? It’s almost end of Q1 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Caffeine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_caffeine/32/387016_2.png) [@CCP\_Caffeine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Caffeine)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/100 "2021-03-15T21:32:12Z")
Ahhh, I knew someone would remind me in here 😅 😅 I’ll be upfront with everyone: We’re not going to get the public test out _this_ month, even though that was our original intention. We had some stability issues that would have limited the purpose of the test (as well as giving a bad experience). These are pretty much resolved now. I have estimations for a new date which I hope to share with everyone soon™ in the form of a devblog. When it comes to the public test, we need to ensure we get as much valuable data from it as possible (performance measurements, crash reports, etc.). While I know a delay is annoying, it simply allows us to build a better client as a result. ---
**Author:** ![Lil\_Monster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lil_monster/32/262539_2.png) [@Lil\_Monster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lil_Monster)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/101 "2021-03-19T21:18:37Z")
Remind you? I’ve bought two MBA M1s and a Mini M1 in the hope of rejoining the game with my wife. £2800 so far, mainly to play Eve. Soon™ can’t come Soon™ enough 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wash\_Sfc3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wash_sfc3/32/262555_2.png) [@Wash\_Sfc3](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wash_Sfc3)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/102 "2021-03-19T23:51:38Z")
When you guys get the beta of the web version in your area it works ok. Not a full blown native app, but it lets me pve and light pvp to get my fix. Currently it forgets my settings every time I log out and no way am I trying dual clients with it, but it gives me 60 fps consistently. ---
**Author:** ![Spitfire1938](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spitfire1938/32/474648_2.png) [@Spitfire1938](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spitfire1938)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578/103 "2021-03-20T04:18:08Z")
If you really want to play EVE right now on those you can try using CrossOver. It works fairly well for me, it does crash occasionally. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-to-go-native-on-macos/283578.md?page=6)