# EVE Online: Viridian - Expansion Notes **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** official\ **Created:** [June 9, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639 "2023-06-09T13:25:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ancantes\_Auge\_Dunier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ancantes_auge_dunier/32/323591_2.png) [@Ancantes\_Auge\_Dunier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ancantes_Auge_Dunier)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/102 "2023-06-12T21:21:11Z")
lol no they cant ban fraternity bots so they throwing towel and allow bots for everybdoy (JOKE) ---
**Author:** ![Blenden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blenden/32/498978_2.png) [@Blenden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blenden)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/103 "2023-06-12T22:34:44Z")
there are also opportunities here, e.g. a more balanced demand for P2 with a value -add premium for the work you put in ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/104 "2023-06-12T22:55:32Z")
You should be making P2 on your planets without needing to have factory planets. P2 has always been the preferred point of importing/exporting to minimize costs. Just because you do it differently doesn’t mean the statement is not true. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/105 "2023-06-13T10:20:29Z")
Except computers They only say 0 and 1 ---
**Author:** ![Rhett\_Schouten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhett_schouten/32/412798_2.png) [@Rhett\_Schouten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhett_Schouten)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/106 "2023-06-13T12:17:58Z")
You didn’t need my permission and you were never going to ask for it and you know that. You published your take on the expansion and I simply added a degree of grounded clarification. Your point of view was that the tools offered in the expansion were redundant because you believe that anyone worth their salt had already developed and has access to them out-of-game. You then went further -and this made no sense- and made the point that these ‘tools’ which you’d already argued ‘were redundant since you already have them’ would make everyone into miserable corporate drones. Which if you already have them, they then already are??? You wrote a lot more and the over all message is; You seem to know a lot about what a good corporation and a bad corporation is. You also seem to know a lot about what a good expansion and what a bad expansion is. But I’d wager that you’d find cause to be unhappy no matter what was offered you. My intention in posting was to add a little note to all of your BIG notes. ---
**Author:** ![Muon\_Farstrider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/muon_farstrider/32/454120_2.png) [@Muon\_Farstrider](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Muon_Farstrider)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/107 "2023-06-13T13:14:17Z")
> [@Mr\_Beardsley](#): > > “it would also provide a tank-bonused missile hull which does not currently exist…” > > **(Navy Scorpion shows visible confusion)** > [@](#): > > It would also provide a somewhat variant take on missiles **in the T1 lineup specifically** I was specifically talking about the t1 battleship lineup in that whole part. Faction battleships are in a different price and availability range and aren’t direct competitors for the purposes of the comparison I was making. ---
**Author:** ![Peace\_For\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peace_for_man/32/374683_2.png) [@Peace\_For\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peace_For_Man)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/108 "2023-06-13T13:35:07Z")
How about a list of the UI changes ---
**Author:** ![11Starlord11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/11starlord11/32/509641_2.png) [@11Starlord11](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/11Starlord11)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/109 "2023-06-13T15:28:10Z")
no one will invest in expensive dreadlocks, it’s easier to quit the game until the old bastion is returned. ---
**Author:** ![Ciryc\_Lagrej](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ciryc_lagrej/32/375359_2.png) [@Ciryc\_Lagrej](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ciryc_Lagrej)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/110 "2023-06-13T15:28:37Z")
RIP JFs ---
**Author:** ![Mandor\_M\_Sawall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mandor_m_sawall/32/374726_2.png) [@Mandor\_M\_Sawall](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mandor_M_Sawall)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/111 "2023-06-13T15:53:42Z")
My game crashes since today. amd rx480 ---
**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/112 "2023-06-13T17:27:47Z")
Can I have your stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Cobra\_Grey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cobra_grey/32/374543_2.png) [@Cobra\_Grey](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cobra_Grey)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/113 "2023-06-13T17:35:03Z")
I never had a need to make P2 up until this change forced me to do so if I wish to continue manufacturing Life Support Backup Units and Auto-Integrity Preservation Seals. My current available planet selections are not conducive to re-tooling to P2 from P1 as the underlying P1 materials have also changed. I would need to tare up approx 50 PI setups and move them multiple jumps away to a new region and rebuild them all to get back into business manufacturing Life Support Backup Units and Auto-Integrity Preservation Seals. PI is the least important of the things I do on all my account and moving location is disruptive as my PI toons need to stay in the area for other functions such manufacturing/PVP/hauling services/alliance contracts etc. Like I said, i’ll just dump my P1 on the market locally going forward. Peace 0/ ---
**Author:** ![Cobra\_Grey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cobra_grey/32/374543_2.png) [@Cobra\_Grey](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cobra_Grey)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/114 "2023-06-13T17:39:18Z")
I dont have the time to put into switching to P2 from P1 and relocating 50 setups to another region. My time ingame is worth more on my other toons which is why I have a nice P1 passive 2 hours per week setup. P2 just isnt worth my time and energy to see what value add premium I can get. It will be interesting however to see how prices change on Life Support Backup Units and Auto-Integrity Preservation Seals and their associated P1/P2 over the coming weeks. Peace 0/ ---
**Author:** ![Klingon55](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/klingon55/32/367890_2.png) [@Klingon55](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Klingon55)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/115 "2023-06-13T22:01:21Z")
Will be taking a break from eve since I wasnt refunded for the local crap that happened and you nerfed my main source of income so I can get hot dropped more easy. Didnt even make a post in the balance forum about it. CCP, stop messing with things that are already good, hot dropping is already overpowered and you want to make it easier for them to drop on people. Absolutely trash ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/116 "2023-06-13T22:36:02Z")
> [@Klingon55](#): > > hot dropping is already overpowered Simple solution: Nerf Cynos and Jumpdrives. 🙂 Would do the whole game good. ^^ ---
**Author:** ![Prudencio\_Morcuendez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prudencio_morcuendez/32/374314_2.png) [@Prudencio\_Morcuendez](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prudencio_Morcuendez)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/117 "2023-06-13T23:02:59Z")
I can’t reach orgasm with the new changes in the Marauders! I like the lighting. Much more, the radioactive vapor of the bastion system. Holography suffers from the curse of Saturn’s rings. You must not be on the same plane, since if you are, the holograms are invisible. I’ve only seen Golem and Paladin. I think the holography, having no area of effect, doesn’t really add to the intent of a ship in fortress mode. You’ll have to excuse me, but for a moment I imagined Tom Cruise manipulating the holograms like he used to do in the movie Minority Report. I think the Marauders makeup is very expensive in exchange for adding 30 seconds to the cycle of the bastion module. ---
**Author:** ![alazarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alazarr/32/480001_2.png) [@alazarr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/alazarr)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/118 "2023-06-13T23:25:15Z")
looks like no more agent missions. For this guy unless I’m in my own Corp. So why would anyone be in any Corp. other that their own because of this ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/119 "2023-06-14T00:58:09Z")
Because they’re not greedy and antisocial? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/120 "2023-06-14T02:03:01Z")
> [@Ciryc\_Lagrej](#): > > Jump freighters are still ■■■■■■. MOVING? ---
**Author:** ![Istrulf\_Sinulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/istrulf_sinulf/32/455299_2.png) [@Istrulf\_Sinulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Istrulf_Sinulf)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639/121 "2023-06-14T03:42:08Z")
7 days Free Omega available in the NES? Where in the NES? Not actually available as far as I can work out [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-online-viridian-expansion-notes/408639.md?page=7)