# EVE portraits - share tricks, and share yours!

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**Category:** My EVE\
**Created:** [October 31, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843 "2021-10-31T20:02:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/243 "2024-06-05T16:34:56Z")

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Not mine, but still, a couple of worthy additions to this thread:

ManFace MissileTits

 ![ManFace MissileTits](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/9/f/c9f544df001bc928d244a5b4a48ec63ccfc98c66.jpeg)

Greta Thunfisch

![Greta Thunfisch](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/9/4/19438b5fca0fcabd6285f5e0b968add9097514cf.jpeg)

The illegitimate daughter of a prominent space whaler, Greta has spent the better part of her adolescence on a hormone-fueled crusade against pollution of the cosmic environment and unsustainable mining.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/244 "2024-06-05T17:19:46Z")

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![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/5/6/15632cf2e6439236532e3c4cac355ca3e96c0bf6.webp)

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**Author:** ![Drixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drixie_trix/32/423000_2.png) [@Drixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drixie_Trix)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/245 "2024-06-12T06:32:34Z")

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![1000001408](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/c/b/2cb7ec0f57ce510f9d98d0c2c09202031e888a67.jpeg)  
Sharing Trix

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/246 "2024-06-16T08:05:47Z")

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Figured since I have plenty of apparel items, I’d try a new look that’s completely different from my usual look…

Which brings up another tip for creating portraits, don’t be afraid to try a totally different look with your character portrait… You might be pleasantly surprised with the results.

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/2/7/32753c2e2326b60d0cf3a9e9bffea7d22fd15b44.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Drixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drixie_trix/32/423000_2.png) [@Drixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drixie_Trix)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/247 "2024-06-16T08:20:14Z")

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You look very dapper in that outfit indeed, sir. Very debonaire.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/248 "2024-06-16T08:50:43Z")

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Thanks, I probably spent close to an hour deciding on which apparel items to use… 😉

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**Author:** ![Drixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drixie_trix/32/423000_2.png) [@Drixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drixie_Trix)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/249 "2024-06-16T08:58:43Z")

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You chose well, I love the brown and gold combination!  
Gives me ideas for SKINR 😉

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/250 "2024-06-16T09:34:30Z")

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Thanks, it’s actually a Maroon color… It’s all basically color-coordinated, here’s the apparel items:

Men’s ‘Curate’ Coat (festive)  
Men’s ‘Amaranthine Divide’ Facial Augmentation  
Odin Synthetic Eye (left/gold)  
Men’s ‘RubySet TorsoRig’ Body Augmentation (to have the gloves)  
Men’s ‘Rider’ Pants (red gold)  
Men’s ‘Ascend’ Boots (maroon/black)

Here’s a full body screen shot…

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/0/4/5048b5f42be12caaa24cccf2fcb62dea710b9b4c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/251 "2024-06-16T09:43:32Z")

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Let’s share a trick about color matching make-up and skin complexion… assuming you already know the basics of color matching and how to use a color wheel, et cetera, there is one thing I noticed about how realistic the EVE portraits are, and that’s that there are actually “warm” and “cold” dark complexions. Dark skins, you name them as you please but here around my neck of the woods they’re just “black”, are not just shades of brown. Brown is a shade of red and thus color matching darker complexions should be fine when color matching for red, right? Well… not just that. Some dark complexions have a underlying shade of… blue! And it makes a whole difference on how do they color match, since warm make up colors might clash horribly with “cold” skin complexions.

Enter my miner siblings, the Fock sisters:

 ![portrait](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/3/2/332f8706000410b2f54a0e8d5a8c92f3e3f3e2af.jpeg)

Here is Matilda C. (Cecilia) Fock.

 ![portrait](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/7/3/d73739fe96145b439999cd20307b746febba6407.jpeg)

And here Cecilia M. (Matilda) Fock.

As you might notice, they have different complexions (same mother, different fathers) and they’re wearing different mascara shades and lipstick.

Why? Matilda C. Fock (above) has a “warm” skin. Cecilia M. Fock (below) has a “cold” skin. Matilda is wearing a pink eyeliner, which makes a straight color match to her brown eyes (red+red) and her “warm” complexion with a red hue. Cecilia is wearing a green eyeliner which makes a straight match to her greenish eyes (green+green) and an adjacent match (green+blue) to her “cold” skin complexion, with a subtle bluish hue.

Lipstick also had to match complexions, many reds/pinks look off on Cecilia thus I went for a very dark brown, which enhances her full lips, whereas Matilda sports a two-tone pink which matches the mascara.

And this is something I never thought I would ever want or need to learn because of… a spaceships videogame. Make up tips? Seriously?

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/252 "2024-06-16T09:46:53Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> I probably spent close to an hour deciding on which apparel items to use

Women spend on average about three times as long as men getting ready for both work and social engagements. @DeMichael_Crimson takes longer.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/253 "2024-06-16T09:50:01Z")

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> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> there is one thing I noticed about how realistic the EVE portraits are, and that’s that there are actually “warm” and “cold” dark complexions.

Interesting!

I had not noticed that before.

What I did notice is that the lighting options in the portraits also have warm and cold variations, with more yellows in one than in the other. So even if you have chosen your character’s skin complexion, you can still adjust a lot about how the portrait looks just by selecting one lighting option or another.

It is something I had never really noticed until I played with the portrait generator. I’m no photographer, but I’m sure people who are already know these things. 😛

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/254 "2024-06-16T10:04:03Z")

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Yes, lighting is yet another level of complexity, specially since the light sources are fixed and we can only pan/spin/tilt the characters a little. Now I don’t remember the lighting on those portraits (they’re from 2015) but Matidla could use some tweaking, unless the silver glare on her coat was a conscious decission…

(I also read more than is advisable about portrait photography, which ended in much frustration because the creator is as it is)

Another tip, btw, is to look for the breathing animation and the cycling of face animation to get the right microexpression. FAI, the slider that pulls the mouth corners has asymmetrical results, but the animation on the posing screen makes for a fairly symetricall pull just for a few frames, and the rendered portrait reflects exactly those frames of the 3D animation cycle. So… wait for your characters to move their face around and check for the sweet spot of expression and then wait and wait until it cycles again AND matches the right spot for breathing animation (whether you want your ladies with full up and forward bosom or full down and back bosom or something inbetween).

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/255 "2024-06-16T10:04:31Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> Women spend on average about three times as long as men getting ready for both work and social engagements. @DeMichael_Crimson takes longer.

Oh no, it’s a jab trying to demean me… 🤣

🤔 I’d like to see you or anybody else quickly go through an apparel collection as extensive as mine… Total amount of apparel in my collection is 760 items…

Total Male Items = 352  
Total Female Items = 393  
Total Unisex Items = 15

EDIT:  
Expanded list…

> **Summary**
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> Total Apparel Items = 760
> 
> Total Female Items = 393  
> Augmentations = 24  
> Bottoms = 72  
> Eyewear = 9  
> Footwear = 38  
> Headwear = 38  
> Masks = 3  
> Outer = 126  
> Prosthetics = 9  
> Tattoos = 7  
> Tops = 68
> 
> Total Male Items = 352  
> Augmentations = 23  
> Bottoms = 49  
> Eyewear = 9  
> Footwear = 31  
> Headwear = 38  
> Masks = 3  
> Outer = 114  
> Prosthetics = 9  
> Tattoos = 7  
> Tops = 69
> 
> Total Unisex Items = 15  
> Eyewear = 7  
> Tattoos = 8
> 
> Total Items In Database = 964  
> Missing Items = 202
> 
> Total Female Items Missing = 141  
> Augmentations = 7  
> Bottoms = 43  
> Footwear = 21  
> Headwear = 8  
> Outer = 22  
> Prosthetics = 8  
> Tops = 31  
> Masks = 1
> 
> Total Male Items Missing = 56  
> Augmentations = 7  
> Bottoms = 5  
> Footwear = 8  
> Headwear = 4  
> Outer = 11  
> Prosthetics = 8  
> Tops = 12  
> Masks = 1
> 
> Total Unisex Items Missing = 5 (Eyewear)

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/256 "2024-06-16T10:09:51Z")

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I don’t think it was a jab, rather a bantering way of praising you for the effort you take. 🤔

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/257 "2024-06-16T10:15:09Z")

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I don’t think so… If anything it was definitely a sarcastic reply…

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/258 "2024-06-16T10:24:57Z")

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Well, admittedly I don’t know your previous interactions…

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**Author:** ![Drixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drixie_trix/32/423000_2.png) [@Drixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drixie_Trix)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/259 "2024-06-16T10:34:15Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> It’s all basically color-coordinated

It looks grand. I love the boots, too!  
You look like a space noble in a Simon Green novel.  
I really need to up my game regarding apparels.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/260 "2024-06-16T11:35:22Z")

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Crimson’s Girl, my personal ‘Space Secretary’… 😉

For this portrait I picked a background that I figured wouldn’t be a distraction from the character but would also complement and enhance the character’s apparel color…

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/3/1/f317da1f66050d5e4ce153f5f507154ace3b4e97.jpeg)  
And here’s a full body screen shot…

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/e/8/1e84be91e3f830232bcfe6bd7c20ad5e72e9e24b.jpeg)  
Apparel Items:

Women’s ‘Sparkgap’ Facial Augmentation  
Women’s Republic Service Tattoo (Vherokior)  
Women’s “Mirelle” Upwell Executive Spectacles  
Women’s ‘Structure’ Dress (green)  
Women’s ‘Serpentis’ T-shirt (olive/black)  
Women’s ‘SteelKnight TorsoRig’ Body Augmentation (to show gloves)  
Women’s ‘Hover’ Tights (opaque black)  
Women’s ‘Mitral’ Boots (bronze)

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**Author:** ![Drixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drixie_trix/32/423000_2.png) [@Drixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drixie_Trix)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/261 "2024-06-16T11:56:44Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Crimson’s Girl, my personal ‘Space Secretary’

She looks like a very able ‘secretary’ and her outfit is truly magnificent from head ( glasses ) to toe ( boots ).  
I’m not fond of the color but the style and material are amazing!

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-portraits-share-tricks-and-share-yours/334843/263 "2024-06-16T14:41:17Z")

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Most certainly dressed to impress!

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