# EVE Vanguard Panel Notes & Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 24, 2023, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576 "2023-09-24T05:58:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/42 "2023-09-25T13:26:03Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > > [@Phaade](#): > > > > Besides you can always name your warclone something like Phaades warclone and people will get it. > > Yes but it looks like something a 12 year old would name their character, it looks horrible and do we really want it to look like a console lobby? i thought we had standards 😛 I wonder if our clone names are taken then? Or can i just name it Phaade? Guess we’ll see! ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/43 "2023-09-25T13:28:48Z")
> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > You seen what Elite Dangerous did to their FPS? > > It’s horrid. 🤮 Yeah but Elite was horrible from the rip. In so may ways it’s hard to know where to begin. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/44 "2023-09-25T13:29:40Z")
> [@Phaade](#): > > I wonder if our clone names are taken then? Seeing as they mention being able to reuse our dust bunny names, which they deleted from the TQ database, i assume they will just show up as characters ingame like the bunnies did, so you’ll be able to invite them to your corp etc ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/45 "2023-09-26T18:27:21Z")
Yes, an FPS based on Eve for the PC, I am a very happy man. This could really work well for CCP if they listen and do it properly this time. ---
**Author:** ![Skyla\_Amarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skyla_amarr/32/392813_2.png) [@Skyla\_Amarr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skyla_Amarr)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/46 "2023-09-27T01:04:23Z")
Yeah it did still mimic eve ship combat in fps form with the Suit classes. Also the grimdark of cybernetic implants and being quickly degenerating clones in the suits. The loadout options were quality. I loved being an Amarr logi suit with my brick tank heavy mate who had the burst hmg. We both played since the beta so we had a lot of officer gear and could spam prototype equipment. The scrambler rifles were a representation of pulse and beam lasers and the charge-up function was quality. It was so good. The pads we could drop to teleport people in like mini cyno’s, and the clone bays on drop ships for instant respawn. It was too good. ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/47 "2023-09-27T06:55:17Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > I don’t care about the lore, i care about being able to play a videogame without needing to resort to having to use multiple names I get it, but without lore, games are just meaningless pixels without purpose giving you frustration at the ways things in the game work… Lore is copium 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/48 "2023-09-27T07:44:28Z")
On an unrelated question if I may. Do you happen to say honk honk in space? Do you also scare away those wardec kittens when you honk at them? ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/49 "2023-09-27T08:29:42Z")
Forgive my ignorance 😊 …but how do you honk in spce? I wondered if and how can I do that 🤔 I thought there is some keyboard-shortcut which makes all your strobe light flash briefly at once or something like that visually recognizable from afar 🤔 I launched fireworks at ppl at Dodixie couple of days ago - everybody docked or fled immediately 🤣 And I got one invite to duel …but I chickened out 😕 _(I remember. don’t worry but I am not ready yet… your Frost Hunter is safely docked at J44)_ So that space-honk thing? …in FPS you normally jump once when you see someone new ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/50 "2023-09-27T08:58:53Z")
Honestly, there should be PvE mode also for gathering resources, not any in game money, just resources that are used in developing new buildings, maybe ammo, implants or weapons or clones, maybe vehicles in future. About Vehicles, adding them would imply more work and bigger maps, which I have not seen anywhere, but true to the legacy there should be vehicles also, updated models with textues, like they did with EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/51 "2023-09-27T09:05:07Z")
I think it mentioned that? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/52 "2023-09-27T09:11:59Z")
I had crossed wires and had assumed that he is someone who scares away a certain kitten, the honk honk would be of course a text message though screams still should be heard from that certain Pilot if it were truely whom I had assumed it was before asking. Other that not wanting to derail much further, let the new game mode spark fear in those who have become stuck with the past that Eve Online had delivered. New ways are the future and same with how a Capsuleer could scare one particular kitten! I think we all know the pilot name of said kitten. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/53 "2023-09-27T12:32:33Z")
> [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](#): > > I get it, but without lore, games are just meaningless pixels I mean, you could strip away the lore from most multiplayer games and they would play just fine, the only part that actually matters is the gameplay, with EVE you could just have coloured blobs for the ships and nothing would really change because people fly ships for how effective they are in a given situation and not because of the lore behind them, there are some roleplayer exceptions but they are the minority ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/54 "2023-09-27T14:07:21Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Do you happen to say honk honk in space? Mabye when I am in my golem… 🤭 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jesoa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jesoa/32/513280_2.png) [@Jesoa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jesoa)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/55 "2023-10-01T13:25:23Z")
We forget details **“the devil is in the details”** 👹 Vanguard is an independent FPS but partly dependent on EvE. \<=\> EvE becomes partly dependent on Vanguard There will be Vanguard\* players and EvE players. [\* which starts at 0] It is therefore **normal** that the transfer of clones with skill points to be reassigned is impossible. Let’s simulate the different accounts: Pure Vanguard - Alpha & Omega - 3 clones ? ( +1 Alpha EvE ? ) ? Pure EvE - Omega - 3 clones ( + 1 Alpha Vanguard ) as precised EvE Alpha + Vanguard Alpha - 3 & 0 clones EvE Alpha + Vanguard Omega - 1 & 3 ? EvE Omega + Vanguard Alpha - 3 & 1 \*\* as precised Eve Omega + Vanquard Omega - 3 & 1 or 3 & 3 \*\*\* \*\* Without increase in subscription ? 💰 \*\*\* With subscription increase ? 💵 Colonization 🌍 There are planets to colonize in all sectors (from high security to lawless zones, in wormholes) Is colonization in high security, in a wormhole possible? Which would lead to a breakup of existing states ( Amar, Caldari, etc. ), to fratricidal wars between the militias & the occupiers, to the possibility of creating dominions, to creation of principalities, autonomous regions and other variants. **If so, PvP will intensify.** SKILLS: For an FPS, it’s more of a weapon specialization (light - rifle, machine gun; heavy - bazzoka, ground/ground missile launcher; observation - binoculars, sniper rifle). Once the colony is established, the same skills as EvE - for trade ? - for industry? - for the collection of minerals ( vessels replaced by machines ) ? - a new branch for urbanization ? - new ores \<=\> new plans ? You can help me shake the devil for the **remaining details**. 👹 [Translated by Google 🇫🇷 / 🇬🇧] ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/56 "2023-10-01T13:59:01Z")
What are you going on about with all these different accounts? Its been stated already that vanguard adds one extra clone to your account. Assuming to play as both you would need to be omega since they state a capsuleer and warclone can both be activated. ---
**Author:** ![Jesoa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jesoa/32/513280_2.png) [@Jesoa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jesoa)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/57 "2023-10-01T14:25:48Z")
as precised ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/58 "2023-10-01T16:34:53Z")
> [@Jesoa](#): > > There will be Vanguard\* players and EvE players. [\* which starts at 0] > It is therefore **normal** that the transfer of clones with skill points to be reassigned is impossible. Who said anything about needing to reassign skillpoints? You just have a second table that tracks your vanguard skills and that doesn’t need to interact with EVE in any real way, CCP could easily do this if they actually had faith in their FPS to survive 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/59 "2023-10-01T17:02:47Z")
On that second character for EVE Vanguard ( **after it’s final release** ) requirement. Plz, check this out and sign the petition …if you agree with it ofc 🙂 > [@Plead with CCP to allow Capsuleers use Vanguard warclone tech directly (and vice versa)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plead-with-ccp-to-allow-capsuleers-use-vanguard-warclone-tech-directly-and-vice-versa/422480): > > TL;DR / Suggestion: let CSM negotiate with CCP a way (a lore excuse for example slight_smile ) so the requirement of creating dedicated EVE Vanguard character will not be necessary in the future when EVE Vanguard, hopefully, will be officially released as part of EVE Online here to stay with us finally Forever. As most of you probably have heard, EVE Vanguard, an EVE Online upcoming FPS module in active development is scheduled for mass test in December. Aka EVE OPS: First Strike To take … ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/60 "2023-10-01T17:42:33Z")
I disagree that we should need to train any skills related to using our own names in vanguard, we don’t need some dumbass lore reason to be able to just play the game without having to create a new character ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576/61 "2023-10-01T17:54:53Z")
Do you disagree with training skills in EVE Online? Certain new elements added to gameplay in EVE Online often require training new skills. Why using new technology: warclone technology, should be any different? Note: The times for training new skills in that petition, are a placeholder, I just pasted time from Elite Infomorph Psychology. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard-panel-notes-discussion/421576.md?page=4)