# EVE Vegas was pitiful and makes me feel this game has no future **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 27, 2019, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882 "2019-10-27T02:50:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Shaigh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shaigh/32/430164_2.png) [@Shaigh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shaigh)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/88 "2019-10-28T18:53:53Z")
Agree… It was so unbelievably boring… CCP is now putting all their efforts into confiscating the skin markets away from the players out of greed… I used to love the game, but now I’m totally POed with CCP screwing over the majority of my investments basically stealing my money and brushing me off about it… CCP is dirty and what they are doing is far worse than the insider trading that they eject players for… ---
**Author:** ![Gleb\_Koskov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gleb_koskov/32/374138_2.png) [@Gleb\_Koskov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gleb_Koskov)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/89 "2019-10-28T19:50:22Z")
Can I get a rundown on this ishkur nerf? pretty crowded thread but no one is talking about these supposed ‘questionable’ changes. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/90 "2019-10-28T21:55:18Z")
> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#): > > Well, one solution to so many supers is to not have ability to inject into them , but they never do that cause “money”. Capital bombs are good idea if introduced properly, HAWs must go away. Supers must be vulnerable to smaller hulls, so there will have to something like RL Aegis system. > > Something about new triglavian structures was mentioned, weather effect maybe? That’s a cool idea. An actual “artillery” platform. - No engines or warp drive. - Can’t take cynos. - Must be boarded by a capsule from a ship maintenance hangar or fleet hangar. - The entire “ship” is nothing but a fortified artillery platform. It’s the size of a Cruiser and fits 1-2 Capital weapons. - Two modes of operation, “bunker mode” and “artillery mode”. - 30-60s cycle time and fuel needed for the mods. - Low EHP in “artillery mode”, but bonuses to range and damage on capital weapons. - Very high EHP when in “bunker mode”, but can’t shoot. - 2-3 lows, 1-2 mids, 2-3 highs. OH YEAH BOYS THE BEST IDEA EVER. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/91 "2019-10-28T22:51:39Z")
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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/92 "2019-10-28T23:07:30Z")
> [@Ninevite](#): > > Star Citizen is starting to slowly come together HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/93 "2019-10-28T23:10:40Z")
> [@Shaigh](#): > > I used to love the game, but now I’m totally POed with CCP screwing over the majority of my investments basically stealing my money and brushing me off about it… CCP is dirty and what they are doing is far worse than the insider trading that they eject players for… Dude, you need to calm down. Step back, get some perspective. This is a videogame. ---
**Author:** ![Natural\_CloneKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natural_clonekiller/32/387890_2.png) [@Natural\_CloneKiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natural_CloneKiller)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/94 "2019-10-28T23:11:19Z")
At least we are getting shield slaves in the summer ---
**Author:** ![BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boingboingboingboing_boingobbleoi/32/203433_2.png) [@BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING_BOINGOBBLEOI)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/95 "2019-10-28T23:26:36Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > OH YEAH BOYS THE BEST IDEA EVER. It’s an interesting idea to be sure. But, the more I think about it, the more I think null sec is stagnant by choice. They have no reason to fight because they all have a slice of the pie. And, there’s more space in null than there needs to be. If you look at the in game map a lot of those systems have no kills in 24 hours, and the same systems have no average players in space in 30 minutes. Even if we had anti-capital ships or other means of removing or nerfing capitals, I don’t think it fixes the problem in the design. ---
**Author:** ![Compo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/compo/32/167680_2.png) [@Compo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Compo)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/96 "2019-10-29T00:04:35Z")
yup have to agree with you there, why would anyone need to attack when they all have pretty much equal income now days Slice up half of Null turn into hi sec you can NEVER have too much hisec 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/97 "2019-10-29T01:13:26Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA I will be quite pleased if they ever manage to accomplish it. IF > [@Compo](#): > > yup have to agree with you there, why would anyone need to attack when they all have pretty much equal income now days > > Slice up half of Null turn into hi sec you can NEVER have too much hisec 🙃 I hear some of the Amarr FW players want the Empire to annex Providence, and I’ve had ideas about the Rogue Drones claiming territory now that they’re a faction with standings. Sansha could probably get in on that action too, some of the null regions near Stain used to belong to them. ---
**Author:** ![Ninevite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ninevite/32/424536_2.png) [@Ninevite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ninevite)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/98 "2019-10-29T01:50:46Z")
> [@Gleb\_Koskov](#): > > Can I get a rundown on this ishkur nerf? pretty crowded thread but no one is talking about these supposed ‘questionable’ changes. They are hitting every AF with a speed reduction because the Jag is performing better than CCP wants it too. Instead of just nerfing the Jag’s speed slightly, they are doing a blanket nerf across all AFs. Pretty stupid if you ask me > [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah I know Star Citizen is a giant meme but supposedly the game has indeed come far along. Mark Hamill tweeted that the single player campaign is coming out late 2020 for whatever that’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![Gneeznow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gneeznow/32/138237_2.png) [@Gneeznow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gneeznow)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/99 "2019-10-29T03:21:48Z")
> [@Captain\_C0ld](#): > > I remember the big words from CCP Seagull about the future of EVE, I guess that future happened somewhere in another dimension Seagull’s great ideas of a monthly expansion lasted about 5 months, in the meantime the big twice-yearly expansions that brought people back were done away with and instead we got absolutely pathetic non-expansions for so long that players who came back periodically completely gave up on eve. Thanks Seagull (and then she quit CCP) > [@Gleb\_Koskov](#): > > Can I get a rundown on this ishkur nerf? blanked AF nerf because CCP don’t know to balance things in a reasonable fashion > [@Xuixien](#): > > OH YEAH BOYS THE BEST IDEA EVER. It’s actually terrible idea, one of the worst I’ve read on these forums and I’ve read suggestions involving futanari-in-stations > [@Ninevite](#): > > Mark Hamill tweeted wow if my favourite youtuber and/or celebrity has-been tweeted about it, it must be good ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/100 "2019-10-29T03:40:16Z")
> [@Gneeznow](#): > > It’s actually terrible idea I await your well-reasoned and intelligent argument. ---
**Author:** ![Compo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/compo/32/167680_2.png) [@Compo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Compo)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/101 "2019-10-29T03:41:13Z")
you’ll get a hearty “cause that’s why” 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/102 "2019-10-29T08:54:14Z")
> [@BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](#): > > It’s an interesting idea to be sure. But, the more I think about it, the more I think null sec is stagnant by choice. Took you a while to figure that out, mate. ---
**Author:** ![F3ND1MUS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/f3nd1mus/32/377706_2.png) [@F3ND1MUS](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/F3ND1MUS)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/103 "2019-10-29T10:58:41Z")
i bought a serpentis skin for my ares yesterday… ---
**Author:** ![BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boingboingboingboing_boingobbleoi/32/203433_2.png) [@BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING_BOINGOBBLEOI)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/104 "2019-10-29T13:38:34Z")
It makes me think that CCP needs an outside the box solution. Such as, giving Solecist a structure annihilation beam that one shots anything you point it at. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/105 "2019-10-29T14:01:40Z")
Sorry if my above comment seemed snarky … or whatever the appropraite word is. It’s just that I hear about the Mittani constantly blaming the game and CCP, but reality of the situation is that if he wanted to send his idiots to war, he could. He just doesn’t, because he doesn’t want to. The same is valid for literally all the others. They’ll use hundreds of explanations and excuses, but in the end it all boils to: When you’re the leader and you don’t go to war, then you can’t blame anything else but yourself. Playing a game isn’t all about winning. Playing to win is fine, but not playing, because you might not win, is solely for losers. Most of them deserve absolutely no respect whatsoever. vOv ---
**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/106 "2019-10-29T14:27:46Z")
It’s almost like it’s a grand adventure full of meaningful pvp in order to secure a space to… Pve. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vegas-was-pitiful-and-makes-me-feel-this-game-has-no-future/197882/107 "2019-10-29T14:50:15Z")
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