# Eve Vision: play EVE without ever needing to leave EVE

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 28, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100 "2020-04-28T08:06:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Esturary](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/esturary/32/393585_2.png) [@Esturary](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Esturary)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/125 "2020-04-30T12:14:28Z")

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I mean I think it looks like a great tool…BUT still official word would be nice. Are you the developer?

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**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/126 "2020-04-30T12:16:17Z")

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You’re not going to get an official word regarding a 3rd party tool, because it’s at the discretion of CCP to allow it or not. They can’t sanction it then back track if it’s abused. So a lack of official word IS the official word.

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**Author:** ![Jaydubs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaydubs/32/196235_2.png) [@Jaydubs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaydubs)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/127 "2020-04-30T12:16:22Z")

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> [@Esturary](#):
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> I mean I think it looks like a great tool…BUT still official word would be nice. Are you the developer?

I am the developer, yes. However, CCP has a policy of never stating any tool is OK. They also, however, have a policy of not retroactively banning people when the community thought something was OK. They will simply say it is not OK to make these kinds of tools, and ask people to stop using it, and I will cease development.

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**Author:** ![Wander\_Prian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wander_prian/32/394208_2.png) [@Wander\_Prian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wander_Prian)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/129 "2020-04-30T13:26:54Z")

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If you want an official ruling, make a support ticket and ask the GM’s.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/130 "2020-04-30T13:28:47Z")

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This is actually only a method of displaying something on top of fixed EVE window, it is NOT illegal, and the things that you can display that are linked there were never illegal.

Nobody should be concerned about CCP banning for using this, more interesting is why Lucas insists on spending his free time here, in such form. 🤔

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**Author:** ![Esturary](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/esturary/32/393585_2.png) [@Esturary](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Esturary)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/131 "2020-04-30T13:31:59Z")

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> [@Wander\_Prian](#):
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> If you want an official ruling, make a support ticket and ask the GM’s.

Done. Lets see what I get back

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/132 "2020-04-30T13:36:30Z")

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Most likely, nothing.

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**Author:** ![John\_Holt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_holt/32/242651_2.png) [@John\_Holt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Holt)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/137 "2020-04-30T16:19:17Z")

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Great app. Thank you for your hard work. Isk coming your way.

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**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/138 "2020-04-30T16:20:06Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/c/9c2d253f69e1c960b78dd268b1bd4099c425bbf0.png)

I’ll leave this here. EveVision injects in the client and modifies the UI (how the game is played)… And #3 also directly prohibits modification of UI (one can argue that having one-click access to various mods speeds up the process of acquiring things in EvE)

/thread.

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**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/140 "2020-04-30T16:21:45Z")

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No it doesn’t … reading comprehension 2/10 (bonus for effort)…

Edit: damn, now got me answering trolls… bugger - won’t happen again.

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**Author:** ![Phelan\_Kheldian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phelan_kheldian/32/450826_2.png) [@Phelan\_Kheldian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phelan_Kheldian)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/141 "2020-04-30T16:34:34Z")

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This is convenient; but, I have dual monitors so it’s not that much help.

And seriously, who plays MMOs with a single monitor anymore?

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/142 "2020-04-30T16:34:38Z")

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BTW, the tools that show up things on top of the game and other applications were known for years, without modifying anything in UI. Its just a popup window that is displayed on top of another window.  
Just like a browser window on top of your borderless windowed game.

CCP MAY ban everyone for using anything tho, just like they did, when they banned someon for using Nvidia play. In that case dev posted they banned by mistake. [Using GeForce Now = ban?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/using-geforce-now-ban/205411/33)

# If CCP will have any issues, you can be sure they will post about it, prohibiting use.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/143 "2020-04-30T16:44:21Z")

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Aaaaaaand, this tool is just some bookmark system for single windows, using Opera is still more convenient for me, it have VPN, detachable video window, multiple tabs can be opened, scripts usage etc.

So even the argument this tool is more convenient is disputable honestly.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/144 "2020-04-30T16:50:49Z")

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What I like most is how it looks, the design of this thing is fitting EVE so much when window shows itself. The rest? Well, I have better functionality already.

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**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/146 "2020-04-30T16:53:22Z")

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I guess they better ban Mumble too then

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/157 "2020-04-30T17:21:04Z")

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> [@Phelan\_Kheldian](#):
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> And seriously, who plays MMOs with a single monitor anymore?

 ![raise hand](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/3/e361afeb53042a613f2435e5c584c4a445f9174a.gif)

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**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/158 "2020-04-30T17:25:40Z")

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I don’t play on any monitor, so that’s definitely an unfair advantage!

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/159 "2020-04-30T17:29:40Z")

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# I are gaining fair advantages. U can too.

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>
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This tool is nothing really different.

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**Author:** ![Jaydubs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaydubs/32/196235_2.png) [@Jaydubs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaydubs)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/160 "2020-04-30T17:36:29Z")

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good lawd this is spicy, what have i done

> [@Ms\_Steak](#):
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> ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/c/9c2d253f69e1c960b78dd268b1bd4099c425bbf0.png)
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> I’ll leave this here. EveVision injects in the client and modifies the UI (how the game is played)… And #3 also directly prohibits modification of UI (one can argue that having one-click access to various mods speeds up the process of acquiring things in EvE)
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> /thread.

And I’ll leave this here.

> **[Overlays, ISK Buyer Amnesty and Account Security | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/overlays-isk-buyer-amnesty-and-account-security)**
>
> Time to touch base on some things EVE’s Security Team has been working on and also discuss some golden oldies regarding account security. First a clarification on our rules and policies regarding overlays and other third party applications.  EVE...

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/c/bc7ce12b6847c0b5556a9cba9e3bfc0df596fa77.png)

So no, not /thread.

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**Author:** ![Jaydubs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaydubs/32/196235_2.png) [@Jaydubs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaydubs)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vision-play-eve-without-ever-needing-to-leave-eve/236100/162 "2020-04-30T17:42:22Z")

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apparently something has to be unfair for people to want to use it, guys

the more you know

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