# Even with a massive alliance move we hit really low player count numbers **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717 "2024-11-12T05:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/61 "2024-11-13T18:07:23Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > You need to hit the button marked ‘Login’ for the game itself… There’s a “Login” button?!? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/62 "2024-11-13T18:08:46Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > pointing out all your lies Oh look…its up by 800 just in the past 40 mins… What was that lie of you and the other troll about how it never ever reaches 32K ? It’s been regularly reaching that recently… ![concurrent2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/d/e/7de728d2a3eb5dcf246a0448c40a866bf5b0bd41.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/63 "2024-11-13T18:15:08Z")
Satire, you should look it up. ![Screenshot_20241113_121354_Chrome](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/2/f/c2fe69cfa054a5d12db609a4dab20514ae7827ea.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/64 "2024-11-13T18:17:11Z")
I’m not sure who STU is, but it ain’t me. Is he also super smart? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/65 "2024-11-13T18:24:29Z")
> [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > Satire Lol. Oh I get it…so now you are only ‘pretending’ you said you hadn’t seen 32K in years. It suddenly becomes ‘satire’ 5 minutes after you are shown to have been talking a load of rot. Of course…you could raise it to 32,002 if you and Epeen every actually logged in 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Analoreke\_Brunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/analoreke_brunette/32/441333_2.png) [@Analoreke\_Brunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Analoreke_Brunette)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/66 "2024-11-13T18:30:45Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > suddenly becomes ‘satire’ But he asks me to: > [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > Be honest… 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/67 "2024-11-13T18:31:29Z")
I don’t have to log into the game buy cool skins for my new ship. ![Screenshot_20241113_122634_Chrome](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/2/6/52650f3713dd4618170070473cea35f108c253bb.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/68 "2024-11-13T19:28:35Z")
Do you prefer rookie or noob? ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/69 "2024-11-13T19:38:50Z")
Those 60k numbers were fake really. Propped up by CCP with special reasons and rewards to hit those numbers on a handful of special occasions. Realistically it was in the low 40s. Still more than today but don’t let the lying, gas lighting, revisionist history people (who have ulterior reasons to use these numbers in their arguments) fool you. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/70 "2024-11-13T19:50:31Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > but don’t let the lying, gas lighting, revisionist history people (who have ulterior reasons to use these numbers in their arguments) fool you. You mean the people who say they haven’t seen 32K _‘in years’._…while it is 31K as I type this ? _Those_ lying people ? > **[Poisoning the Well](https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/cgi-bin/uy/webpages.cgi?%2Flogicalfallacies%2FPoisoning-the-Well)** > > To commit a preemptive ad hominem attack against an opponent. That is, to prime the audience with adverse information about the opponent from the start, in an attempt to make your claim more acceptable or discount the credibility of your opponent’s... ---
**Author:** ![Analoreke\_Brunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/analoreke_brunette/32/441333_2.png) [@Analoreke\_Brunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Analoreke_Brunette)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/71 "2024-11-13T19:54:55Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > Those 60k numbers were fake really By golly, everything is fake now, even the news! > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > Realistically it was in the low 40s. Still more than today Yes but what I really look at is CCP’s revenues. They still make a lot of money off this game and I’m happy for them. Lots of families can eat and if I can contribute by buying Omega and PLEX then I feel good because it’s a great big beautiful game. > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > don’t let the lying, gas lighting, revisionist history people (who have ulterior reasons to use these numbers in their arguments) fool you I’m trying not to, still trying to find my way around the forum through the liars, gas-lighters, revisionists and trolls. o7 ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/72 "2024-11-13T19:56:59Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > the people who say they haven’t seen 32K _‘in years’._ Probably aren’t actually playing the game. ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/73 "2024-11-13T20:09:58Z")
You guys take yourselves way too seriously. [https://eve-offline.net/](https://eve-offline.net/) has all the answers and easy access. Please refer to statements like, “This is the coldest winter I’ve ever seen” in context. Must I draw you a picture? \*Sorry, it was .net ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/74 "2024-11-13T20:26:42Z")
> [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > I’m not sure who STU is Haha, you caught me being lazy; I couldn’t be bothered to type out your handle, so I abbreviated it! Perhaps I should have written S TU? I do use people’s handles in replying to them, and where linking is unnecessary. It’s just a stylistic idiosyncrasy of mine. I hope that clears it up! ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/75 "2024-11-13T20:36:42Z")
I understand your method, but I have no clue who that is. Sorry 😔 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/76 "2024-11-13T20:40:51Z")
Imagine if the name was `Smarted Than Du` instead. 😏 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Analoreke\_Brunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/analoreke_brunette/32/441333_2.png) [@Analoreke\_Brunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Analoreke_Brunette)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/77 "2024-11-13T20:43:04Z")
@Uriel_the_Flame Needed an F between the T and U 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/78 "2024-11-13T20:46:03Z")
> [@Analoreke\_Brunette](#): > > Needed …in that case a more EVE fitting name would be Harder ThanU plus adding the F where you suggested. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/79 "2024-11-13T20:47:12Z")
Abbreviation is not life. Is Eve is a mirror or a mirage? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717/80 "2024-11-14T09:58:20Z")
> [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > Please refer to statements like, “This is the coldest winter I’ve ever seen” in context. Nooo…you didn’t say it was the coldest winter you’d ever seen. You quite specifically said, in response to the mention of 32,000 players… _"I haven’t seen that number in years._ _Be honest…"_ You then got utterly made a fool of, which prior posts indicate is not that hard, with the login figure approaching 32,000 _within an hour or so of you stating that_ ! In other words, not only are you not ‘Smarter ThanU’ but you really don’t have a clue what you are talking about and it’s clear that like so many whiners here you have not actually logged in for years…if ever. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/even-with-a-massive-alliance-move-we-hit-really-low-player-count-numbers/467717.md?page=5)