# Event Feedback - Guardian's Gala 2019

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** feedback, official, live-event\
**Created:** [February 12, 2019, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426 "2019-02-12T10:31:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 31

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**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/607 "2019-02-15T20:59:07Z")

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> [@holohydra\_coyotinka](#):
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> But it wrecks economies and destroys the game for real players.

in EvE’s case that doesn’t wreck the economy because you dont buy ISK directly - they have to come from other players and thus are part of economy. No extra ISK is being generated from you spending $.

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/608 "2019-02-15T21:23:53Z")

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Calm down dear! It is pixel spaceships.

Demanding anything will get you derision only!

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Rolfski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_rolfski/32/196163_2.png) [@Lord\_Rolfski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Rolfski)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/609 "2019-02-15T21:27:35Z")

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This event is nothing short but an ordinary Eve scam, I have no other words for it. I had to pay about 25 mil ISK upfront to get a 10 mil ISK item from the event, are you kidding me?  
Lol, tfw when the devs in a sociopath-ridden game become sociopaths themselves…

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/610 "2019-02-15T21:28:19Z")

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Entitlement is a sad thing!

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**Author:** ![BalticBeast14](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balticbeast14/32/242877_2.png) [@BalticBeast14](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BalticBeast14)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/611 "2019-02-15T21:28:19Z")

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@CCP_Falcon, we shall really get reply on this as your customers. @Leah_Crowleymass described our concerns very well in her post. Please address it (post No. 581, from Feb 15).

> [@Leah\_Crowleymass](#):
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> We can skip an event we don’t like- that’s fine. But seeing something like this that seems to indicate such a massive and disturbing shift in EVE as a game and a culture is different. We can’t just skip over that without worrying about what the future will hold. Of all of the issues raised in this thread, this- to me- is the one that deserves a statement from CCP because it’s not about this event, it’s about what is happening to the game we all love so dearly.

I have a subscription as many other people here. What shall I count with, for the future? It is just too many bad news at this time, not just this thread.

Thanks for your answer.

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/612 "2019-02-15T21:28:59Z")

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Deaf ears will reply!

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/613 "2019-02-15T21:31:21Z")

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Actually if you sell on game merket PLEX that you bought from CCP, someone bought it for ISK there. Then that person will usually make the same amount of ISK in a month, if not greater to buy another PLEX package to keep being omega. ISK is printed in billions and if PLEX soars in value, so is ISK supply because more people join activities that allow it.

That situation is the same with extractors and extractors cost PLEX, so its connected.

So ISK amount in game is bigger and bigger, and it comes mainly from null, because people there use alts and PLEX them. A lot of isk flowing in means its worth less and less, so more of it is needed for the same stuff.

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**Author:** ![Saviour\_Coltare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saviour_coltare/32/196304_2.png) [@Saviour\_Coltare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saviour_Coltare)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/614 "2019-02-15T21:44:43Z")

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While I subscribe to the “if you don’t like the event, don’t participate” philosophy, I feel like it needs to be rebalanced a bit. I have yet to hear of a single person walking away ISK positive. I tried it for a few hours and went back to running Abyssal sites.

I am very interested to see if this will be included in the ISK sinks in the next MER.

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**Author:** ![Sharcy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sharcy/32/412462_2.png) [@Sharcy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sharcy)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/615 "2019-02-15T21:44:53Z")

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Just want to touch on something. The Event Update page said:

> Get rare exclusive Domination, Shadow Serpentis and Deadspace modules

Has anybody seen any of those? Because I haven’t.

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**Author:** ![Shan\_Dollean](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shan_dollean/32/389735_2.png) [@Shan\_Dollean](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shan_Dollean)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/616 "2019-02-15T21:46:40Z")

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Before I gave up in disgust, I got a Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor…

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/617 "2019-02-15T21:48:18Z")

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You can get that from belt rats in Balle lol.

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/618 "2019-02-15T21:53:24Z")

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> [@CCP\_Falcon](#):
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> Work is going into looking at the balance of surprise gifts

They are in no way a Gift, they are Loot boxes.

You’re one of us Falcon, you know well how the community feels about loot boxes and where they might lead.  
There is no place for these disgusting rip off gambling loot boxes in our beautiful game, i’ve been hooked on this game a long long time, been to many fanfests, vegas and meet ups. I’ve always felt that CCP had it all sorted and nobody could touch them in their vision for this game, I know this can’t be a decision made by one of the CCP people, it stinks of PA testing the waters.

you know how proud a bunch us EVE players are, part of a game and community that stands well above every one elses standards, while other games fell and died away EVE fought on, PA may want to know why has EVE kept so many people together, why so many of us stay out of work to show up for ops, take holidays to be part of something, put real dedication and love into this beast of a game, well you can tell them it’s because of what CCP created and it would be a huge mistake to mess with that.  
I hope all is well with you and thank you for the reply and i really hope those in power let you do you magic and sort this mess, no matter what man i gotta say thanks, i know you love this game and will do whatever you can to protect it o7

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/619 "2019-02-15T21:59:05Z")

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> [@xxxTRUSTxxx](#):
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> you know how proud a bunch us EVE players are

How big is this “Bunch” you talk of?

To my knowledge and learned people a bunch varies. It is totally dependent upon the buncher and how many items he/she/it thinks should be bunched into the bunch.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/620 "2019-02-15T22:03:59Z")

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CCP Falcon cant do anything about it. He is only here to hold your hand while CCP positions itself behind you to unzip pants and…

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**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/621 "2019-02-15T22:05:30Z")

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> [@Rei\_Lilim](#):
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> I honestly don’t understand why they thought getting into lootbox gambling which is rapidly being legislated against all over the world

This was the reason the casinos got shut down, EU started passing laws against video game gambling rather or not it used real money, even if it just used game money it was considered “advertising” gambling to underage, the RMT was just a 2nd excuse, because we can see RMT dont mean much vs bots.

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/622 "2019-02-15T22:08:46Z")

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Get shafted you mean?

Go on say it that was what you wanted to type!

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/623 "2019-02-15T23:22:05Z")

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not as big as a wow bunch, or a battlefield bunch, it’s as big as an EVE bunch i guess 👀

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**Author:** ![Jenn\_aSide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenn_aside/32/384682_2.png) [@Jenn\_aSide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenn_aSide)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/624 "2019-02-15T23:44:53Z")

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Why not have more than one kind of ‘event’?

-Seasonal **General Events** like Crimson Harvest ie things you ALREADY KNOW work and are well liked that adhere to the normal event schedule.

And then

- **Special Events** that are that are experiments, smaller in scope in order to test out the concept.

The way it’s done now is a disaster. Many PVE players wait for these events because it can be a nice change from the stuff we’ve done over and over again, and after the event it’s easy and refreshing to go back to the PVE content we rely on for in-game income.

Why you have a terrible event like this, not only does the bad event itself generate anger, but PVE players just keep doing the same old content they’ve been doing, which leads to burn out and eventually quitting.

The cost of a screw up like Guardian’s Gala is more that just an angry sperg thread or two on Reddit and these forums. And EVERY TIME this screw up happens , CCP comes back with “we are listening so we can improve”.

If I were running CCP, I’ d be asking questions about how these screw ups could keep happening, and what needs to change personnel wise and company-culture wise to stop it.

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**Author:** ![Leiron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leiron/32/177488_2.png) [@Leiron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leiron)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/625 "2019-02-16T00:36:18Z")

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I opted to wait a few days to give the bugs and loot tables etc a chance to get sorted out. My opinion has not changed.

This event is NOT fun. It sucks. It sucks for all the reasons above which I mostly agree with.

I certainly dont mind a lotto but this system wasn’t branded as a lotto.

The mining repross is garbage, the aquamarine skins look like a crack head my little pony nightmare, the bosses warp off and once you warp off a site it’s poof gone, meaning unless you’re multinoxing most mining can’t be done solo.

But lootboxes… lootboxes… Thats piss and yall know it.

The ccp silence has indeed been deafening and maybe thats ok from your end with your new korean overlords? Not from the old players end though

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**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-guardians-gala-2019/139426/626 "2019-02-16T01:07:07Z")

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> [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](#):
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> EVE is multi-player.

Ive been pushing for this for years, but everyone wants to find out how to solo everything in eve, if it cant be soloed by 1 character they just make alts instead of teaming up.

i watched a guy with 5 alts decimate a 22ish man fleet a couple years ago.

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