# Event Feedback - Operation Permafrost

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** feedback, official, live-event\
**Created:** [December 17, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637 "2018-12-17T12:47:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rusty\_X5](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rusty_x5/32/292590_2.png) [@Rusty\_X5](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rusty_X5)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/382 "2018-12-19T06:24:47Z")

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Sooo…is CCP going to do anything with this event, even just try to fix the simple problems (spawns/objectives,etc)…or they just leaving it as it is…cop the flak and hopefully learn from it as we wait for the next event?

Just asking cause if they going to try to fix something in it i’ll have another crack at it, but if they not well I won’t hold my breath. Don’t mind either way…i can’t see them fixing it with such a short window the event is available tbh, just hope they learnt something for next time.

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**Author:** ![Absinthe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/absinthe/32/92553_2.png) [@Absinthe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Absinthe)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/383 "2018-12-19T06:31:42Z")

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They have already fixed some issues i think they are working hard at fixing the event

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**Author:** ![Absinthe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/absinthe/32/92553_2.png) [@Absinthe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Absinthe)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/384 "2018-12-19T06:32:48Z")

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i think alot of comments in here are a little harsh im happy for the new content and happy that ccp is working to fix some issues players are having 🙂

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**Author:** ![Sobaan\_Tali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sobaan_tali/32/109176_2.png) [@Sobaan\_Tali](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sobaan_Tali)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/385 "2018-12-19T06:45:53Z")

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Both, more than likely. I won’t sugar-coat this…this event isn’t one of CCP’s better ones, in fact it’s one of the most dissapointing ones for me personally. There’s a lot up-side-down with it – balance, bugs, odd design choices. CCP will probably fix some, but not all of the issues. Hopefully though, both the issues fixed and those not will nonetheless serve as lessons for further events. That doesn’t mean there won’t be any issues with the next one or the one after the next, but if we’re lucky it will mean CCP can learn how to refine the live events better so the issues are rarer or less of an impact. We just gotta keep up the reports and feedback.

I know especially nowadays it can be demoralizing to run into features and additions to Eve that seem half-done or bug-riddled, but it won’t get any better if we just give up on it. Hell, I’ve wanted to scream at my screen a few times for sure, but we have to keep it in our heads that CCP’s busting their asses to make this work. We need to keep writing up bug reports when ever we see a need for one and give feedback on the forums/reddit/where ever we can (constructive, not the usual “you guys suck again, Eve is dying” type). Strangely enough it does seem like it’s much easier sometimes to see the error in folks far sooner than where they did good. This game is old as ■■■■ but still kicking ass in my opinion, and the fact that the devs keep putting out as much as they do with just as much passion as I saw in them when I started Eve nearly a decade ago gives me pause in a good way.

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**Author:** ![Absinthe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/absinthe/32/92553_2.png) [@Absinthe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Absinthe)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/386 "2018-12-19T06:51:39Z")

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yeh well said as a player base we are not always gona like how things come out but its super nice to have a Developer team that gives a ■■■■ \<3 you CCP

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**Author:** ![Gunas\_Takeva](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gunas_takeva/32/245311_2.png) [@Gunas\_Takeva](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gunas_Takeva)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/387 "2018-12-19T06:54:28Z")

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If they fix anything, they should fix this. Lost 2 ventures to “Invisible cloud”

> **[Venture | Gunas Takeva | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/74106048/)**
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> Gunas Takeva (MyLeftArmy) lost their Venture in Motsu (The Citadel) Total Value: 714,643.00 ISK

Reshipped and warped back in…

> **[Venture | Gunas Takeva | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/74106638/)**
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> Gunas Takeva (MyLeftArmy) lost their Venture in Motsu (The Citadel) Total Value: 436,572.59 ISK

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**Author:** ![Absinthe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/absinthe/32/92553_2.png) [@Absinthe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Absinthe)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/388 "2018-12-19T06:55:22Z")

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you may be to far out from the warp in. if you fly to far away you get aoe damage kind of like in the abyssal space

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**Author:** ![Gunas\_Takeva](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gunas_takeva/32/245311_2.png) [@Gunas\_Takeva](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gunas_Takeva)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/389 "2018-12-19T06:56:15Z")

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That was warping IN from the acceleration gate…

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**Author:** ![Absinthe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/absinthe/32/92553_2.png) [@Absinthe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Absinthe)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/390 "2018-12-19T06:57:17Z")

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Oh ok i get ya yeh its a bit rough

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**Author:** ![Jenn\_aSide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenn_aside/32/384682_2.png) [@Jenn\_aSide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenn_aSide)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/391 "2018-12-19T06:57:50Z")

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Well, at least the lighting got a bit better.

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**Author:** ![Absinthe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/absinthe/32/92553_2.png) [@Absinthe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Absinthe)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/392 "2018-12-19T06:57:58Z")

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im just in hi-sec in ventures atm no issues

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**Author:** ![Gunas\_Takeva](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gunas_takeva/32/245311_2.png) [@Gunas\_Takeva](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gunas_Takeva)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/393 "2018-12-19T06:59:59Z")

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Had no issues yesterday…with the exception of no ore spawning. Was killing the frigs in my Merlin while fleetmates took care of the Cruisers. Also, why no shared credit for kills if you’re in a fleet?

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**Author:** ![Absinthe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/absinthe/32/92553_2.png) [@Absinthe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Absinthe)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/394 "2018-12-19T07:01:54Z")

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the shared kills thing has been an issue in every event im not quite sure why it bugs out

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**Author:** ![Absinthe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/absinthe/32/92553_2.png) [@Absinthe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Absinthe)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/395 "2018-12-19T07:02:32Z")

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but yeh im in fleet also seams to be the best option. saftey in numbers 😛

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**Author:** ![Grey\_Solaris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grey_solaris/32/233329_2.png) [@Grey\_Solaris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grey_Solaris)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/396 "2018-12-19T08:10:24Z")

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So I finally got around to trying out the event and wow is this not newbro friendly. The East gate hacking cans NEED T2 hacking.

And whats with these rats? I have 93% thermal resistance on my Legion and 3-5 cruisers still chew through my armor… wtf?

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**Author:** ![Daedelious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daedelious/32/39521_2.png) [@Daedelious](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daedelious)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/397 "2018-12-19T08:17:54Z")

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How much kin?

Damn

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**Author:** ![Grey\_Solaris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grey_solaris/32/233329_2.png) [@Grey\_Solaris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grey_Solaris)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/398 "2018-12-19T08:29:46Z")

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93 them/77kin, the crusiers were only hitting me with thermal, seeing that my reactive armor was at a full 60%.

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**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/399 "2018-12-19T10:18:00Z")

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After controlling a site and a North room for alone for like 20 hours on Monday and Tuesday I can happily report in that time to have gotten 3 standard bpcs and 10 basic bpcs and 0 advanced or extendeds.

Now when I see more than one of anyone in a room I just kind of laugh as one person alone would struggle to get what they want.

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**Author:** ![Ezra\_Endashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ezra_endashi/32/373638_2.png) [@Ezra\_Endashi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ezra_Endashi)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/400 "2018-12-19T10:20:09Z")

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> [@Sugar\_Smacks](#):
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> have gotten 3 standard bpcs and 10 basic bpcs and 0 advanced or extendeds

U got these from BS wrecks?

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**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/401 "2018-12-19T10:20:32Z")

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yes from Hisec

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