# Event Feedback - Operation Permafrost **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** feedback, official, live-event\ **Created:** [December 17, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637 "2018-12-17T12:47:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/431 "2018-12-19T13:34:36Z")
> [@Autum\_Knight](#): > > paying for a service we are being denied… you pay to be able to log in your account. Are you denied to log in your account ? that’s because you were botting for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Scootiesan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scootiesan/32/374618_2.png) [@Scootiesan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scootiesan)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/436 "2018-12-19T14:05:29Z")
And we still can’t sell or buy these bpc’s with contracts. The drop of bpc’s comparted to other events(even where you got directly the accel) is abyssmal. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/437 "2018-12-19T14:15:04Z")
so what ? At least the accels are not worth nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/438 "2018-12-19T14:18:12Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > so what ? It would be nice if there was a way to buy and sell the BPC’s. I know I would like to buy, and it sounds like there are people wanting to sell. And, I think it’s time I checked out of this thread. It seems to have devolved into arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/439 "2018-12-19T14:20:58Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > It would be nice if there was a way to buy and sell the BPC’s. that I totally agree with. Now what I ask for “so what” is the low drop rate of bpcs. In previous events, drop rate was so high the bpcs were worth nothing, not even the time to sell it on contract. ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/440 "2018-12-19T14:34:07Z")
Its not really a low drop rate of bpcs, there are plenty of basic bpcs going around, its just much harder to get your usual fix of standards/advanceds/extendeds. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/441 "2018-12-19T14:40:07Z")
I just killed around 15 BS and dropped 2 basics and 1 standard only. I’ve got around 10 standard total, and yet not any extended/advanced. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/442 "2018-12-19T14:47:46Z")
Looks like same drop rate as past events, though much less boss ships this time in total. BPCs only drop from the BS bosses AFAIK. ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/443 "2018-12-19T14:52:13Z")
Where you doing them in Null Low or High sec? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/444 "2018-12-19T15:09:22Z")
been doing the event solely in HS. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/445 "2018-12-19T16:05:48Z")
> [@Autum\_Knight](#): > > CCP have to respect the laws of MY country Bollocks. Go away. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/446 "2018-12-19T16:19:23Z")
ok I killed exactly 14 BS in exactly 67 minutes (a lot of useless jumps, because I did not want to optimize it) without the last 3 (which dropped nothing) that would have been 11 BS in \<40min. [http://evepraisal.com/a/kho6k](http://evepraisal.com/a/kho6k) 5 basics, 1 BCU, 2 harvesters, total BO 80M meanwhile my 2 alt mined exactly 38k condensates, so [http://evepraisal.com/a/kho9l](http://evepraisal.com/a/kho9l) 268M (however they started before I started to kill BS, so I’d say it is 100M/h… which is the number I found) ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/447 "2018-12-19T16:30:54Z")
BTW yesterday I think there was ± 3 cruisers per BS, and I often took quite a beating ; now it’s more 1 cr average per BS, so the rats have toned down a bit. I needed to OL my invul only once, and I never ran out of cap (with a non-capstable fit of course). This means that brawling ship are much more at ease. IMO an hyper blaster kronos would be the best ship for this event. something like > **this** > > ``` > [Kronos, *Simulated Kronos] > Reactive Armor Hardener > Large Armor Repairer II > Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane > Magnetic Field Stabilizer II > Magnetic Field Stabilizer II > Magnetic Field Stabilizer II > Capacitor Power Relay II > > Large Micro Jump Drive > 500MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive > Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery > Heavy Stasis Grappler II > > Neutron Blaster Cannon II > Bastion Module I > Neutron Blaster Cannon II > Small Tractor Beam II > Heavy Energy Nosferatu II > Neutron Blaster Cannon II > Heavy Energy Nosferatu II > Neutron Blaster Cannon II > > Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II > Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II > > Null L x3000 > Void L x3320 > > ``` though the bastion is useless. ---
**Author:** ![Random\_McNally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/random_mcnally/32/50047_2.png) [@Random\_McNally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Random_McNally)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/448 "2018-12-19T16:57:59Z")
Gotta say, this one is not doing well compared to Drone Swarm and the Harvest. First, where the hell do you refine the vapor and actually get credit for it? I’ve huffed the stuff for over 2 hours last night. Tried refining it in the NPC station, no points. Tried refining it in a refining citadel, no points. This was after buying a skill injector and speed training Gas harvesting on an alt JUST to earn these points. Second, since when do RLMLs NOT count as medium weapons?? I’ve run into several situations where points are not applied in the various catagories. Very very disappointing. Finally, the most annoying part of this event is that you cannot get into a rhythm to run it. (particularly in the mining gate) Mine this stuff! (ok, done) Now grab a different ship and mine that stuff… Kill these rats! (ok!) NOW, kill these rats with a different ship/weapon system. (WHAT?) NO, not that weapon system… Had to laugh when the word “trigger” kept appearing in my local chat. I am now done with it. This one was not implemented very well. ---
**Author:** ![Erim\_Kaluk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erim_kaluk/32/182496_2.png) [@Erim\_Kaluk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erim_Kaluk)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/449 "2018-12-19T17:00:38Z")
Hack 40 Frostline Logistics Nodes? Have the people setting these tasks ever done that? WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/450 "2018-12-19T17:10:19Z")
you can warp in the site. take two clusters of 4 cans that are in diagonal ; put a BM 40 away from each, use a mwd ship ; hack a cluster, warp @50 on the further BM, you land in the other cluster, hack, repeat. 1min per hack I think. the rats just keep boucning on you, as you bounce from can to can. if you cloak they even start buggin and wont attack you until you land 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Hinamori\_Date](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hinamori_date/32/190338_2.png) [@Hinamori\_Date](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hinamori_Date)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/451 "2018-12-19T17:18:06Z")
Hi this event is only for very rich people in EVE, it does absolutely nothing to be accesible for new players. Abyssal Deadspace is way better then this, Why do they not instantiate this thing also? I find this event as being a really bad joke. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/452 "2018-12-19T17:19:44Z")
> [@Hinamori\_Date](#): > > Hi this event is only for very rich people in EVE, it does absolutely nothing to be accesible for new players. Abyssal Deadspace is way better then this, have you tried mining in a fleet ? ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/453 "2018-12-19T17:28:17Z")
Forget the complications of the various Tasks - I’m abandoning the points game, with its lame insistence that you [click buttons to claim your points](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-i-beg-you-to-consider-re-enabling-auto-claim-rewards-during-events/108392/87) that any computer was capable of doing, a number of events ago… _it was automatic_. @CCP_Turtlepower @CCP_Dragon @CCP\_Shreddy PLEASE address this. “Easy to play, hard to master…” where did that idea go? ---
**Author:** ![Daocara\_Mankaris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daocara_mankaris/32/111971_2.png) [@Daocara\_Mankaris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daocara_Mankaris)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637/455 "2018-12-19T18:32:18Z")
“Hack 10 Frostline Nodes in 17 Minutes” … I managed to open 3 so far with a lot of tries and luck. Also, now that the Centurions spawn again, they run away into the “Atmospheric Damage” - I realized it once I lost a full fly of drones. Honestly, I like the idea of being “forced” to try diffrent things - why not. But the overall execution of this event seems very questionable to me. Of course guys with 10mio SP and up would like a challenge. But expecting players with let´s say my 2,5 mio SP to enjoy the same event in the same area… this doesn´t work out CCP! Edit: And of course not to forget the good old “In a Mining Frigate, defeat a player”. I’m at 164 points at the event, and my options to gain more seem to run out. That is a bit frustrating! Give us a chance to refresh some of the absurd tasks, please! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637.md?page=21) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-feedback-operation-permafrost/127637.md?page=23)