# Event sites and looters **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 13, 2021, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540 "2021-12-13T08:35:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/1 "2021-12-13T08:35:24Z")
We had been hearing about a lot of pilots messing with events , taking loot and baiting people, so off we went to look for these pilots . So our fleet , made up of Thorax setup for PvP , a T1 and a T2 variant , then two logistics . So our first tactic was to fly into a site that was running , the very first site we almost got a praxis that went yellow . Then we switch tactics and ran some sites ourselves in itself that was good fun in T1 cruisers, why doing one of these sites a tengu warped in and went yellow , he attacked us , not sure what his thinking was but we attacked , I think the missile tracking disruptor on every ship may have putting him off a bit but he went down fast and our logi kept us all alive . [Tengu | Stavlabel | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/97300237/) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/2 "2021-12-13T08:48:25Z")
So you baited and gang-banged a low-sec solo PvPer? Is this what New Eden “Police Force” is up to these days? ---
**Author:** ![Wah\_Huren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wah_huren/32/394699_2.png) [@Wah\_Huren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wah_Huren)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/3 "2021-12-13T09:34:34Z")
Do you ,perchance, write salacious headlines for some of the less salubrious gutter-press tabloids? For the record:- We were not baiting; none of our fleet were suspect. We were carrying out a legitimate act, purging the system of ne’er do well NPC’s. After all, with all the unfounded and slanderous accusations being slung at us in the forums, we needed some RnR time… Mr Stavlabel paid for his poor choice of targets. We took no offensive action until he fired upon us. May your days be merry and bright Fly safe o7 ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/4 "2021-12-13T09:40:05Z")
This isn’t the larping forum, you bumrushed a solo player in low sec. Nothing wrong with that but let’s keep the fantasy fan fic out if it. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/5 "2021-12-13T09:48:13Z")
First of all, what does being suspect have to do with low-sec? It’s a free-fire zone. The only reason timers exist there at all is so that they can carry over into high-sec if someone plays the gate jumping game, and to differentiate/deter pod kills. Second, it’s very obvious that you baited him, just like you were trying to bait others. Githany even said you went to sites that were being run, and the players inside went yellow on you (sounds like self-defense to me). This particular player is skilled, and wouldn’t have taken a fight against 6 cruisers and 1 battleship, plus logistics. By the way the damage numbers are staggered, it’s obvious that only one or two of you were there on grid with him, and the rest arrived after. Unless you have screenshots or a video proving me wrong, it seems to me that you guys grab-assed each other over a hot diggity “griefer” kill, which happened to be a genuine low-sec solo PvPer (one of a dying breed), and are now fishing for compliments on the forums. You guys were acting exactly like low-sec pirates act. This is why it’s so hard to take your corporation seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/6 "2021-12-13T12:14:00Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > So our first tactic was to fly into a site that was running , the very first site we almost got a praxis that went yellow . It’s lowsec. Your fleet is no longer some charitable fleet trying to defend carebears doing peaceful event sites. You are now just another fleet roaming around lowsec actively looking for easy solo kills. Look @Githany_Red, I don’t mind you AG guys. I honestly find the interaction between you and gankers quite amusing on these forums. But let’s just call this what it is… A random fleet kill on some solo player in lowsec. Respect to @Stavlabel for trying to take a fight outnumbered. People taking outnumbered/outgunned fights are rare in eve these days. ---
**Author:** ![Moonzy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moonzy/32/341284_2.png) [@Moonzy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moonzy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/7 "2021-12-13T13:55:07Z")
What a pathetic story you’ve got there, op. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/8 "2021-12-13T14:19:18Z")
> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > It’s lowsec. > > Your fleet is no longer some charitable fleet trying to defend carebears doing peaceful event sites. No the Praxis was in high sec and a loot thief is a loot thief no matter where he is. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/9 "2021-12-13T14:51:35Z")
> [@Moonzy](#): > > What a pathetic story you’ve got there, op. Thxs for the time to read my post and the time to form an opinion about our fleet and story. the real point really is with a bit of planning and team work and low skill players you can take on many types of opponents in high low or null, we did some nice event sites ran off looters almost got some and killed Stavlabel. We even made some friends in that area of low sec who seem to be pleased with our kill and for running off pilots with and intent for skullduggery. I’d like to say respect to Stavlabel too ,for giving it a go a real pvp’er . please do enlighten us what pathetic part of eve you play . > [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > Your fleet is no longer some charitable fleet trying to defend carebears doing peaceful event sites. And i don’t understand the charitable thing you talk about , our aim on this night and many other nights, is to hunt and kill pirates and pilots we have decided are undesirable and that along is our decision, looking at staviabel’s zkill we seem to be spot on with that and he fits our ROE so all good , as he attacked us we had to take action anyway , if we defend carebears in the process then all good. With out being ready for pvp in the first place and having logi in fleet, he may have got the upper hand and killed us all . Gankers and suporters will alway spin the story some how, are we not allowed to do pve and pvp at the same time now , lol ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/10 "2021-12-13T14:58:37Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > t’s obvious that only one or two of you were there on grid with him, and the rest arrived after. No , your wrong , some had got close to him why others had been fighting Sansha ships , i was repping our ships still taking pve fire as well as keeping ships alive taking damage from the Tengu . all on grid. and as you know my word is as good as a picture I’m suprised people are so upset over our actions but i’ll promise todo more 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/11 "2021-12-13T15:20:39Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > We had been hearing about a lot of pilots messing with events , taking loot and baiting people, so off we went to look for these pilots . Good on you for creating your own content. Though I do like the part of this thread where the forum NPCs rage at you for having fun in the game they never log in to. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/12 "2021-12-13T15:29:20Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > may have putting him off a bit but he went down fast and our logi kept us all alive . Did your logi aggress the Tengu for this? Else it would have been concorded for assistance interference with a limited engagement. I have a subsequent question to that, would a limited engagement also allow you to rep the other (not only shoot) while the other has another engagement, or will the game stop that? I’m always getting confused with the new rules, the old were more clear. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/13 "2021-12-13T15:47:08Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Is this what New Eden “Police Force” is up to these days? Well it’s one fight more than you’ve been “up to” since your corpmates left you in 2014. > [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > Your fleet is no longer some charitable fleet trying to defend carebears doing peaceful event sites. The OP is about suspect looters at event sites, not about anti-ganking defense. It’s hilarious how the whole PvP crowd is like, “all PvP is good PvP! Catalysts against Ventures? Check. Smartbombing Capsules? Check. 20 vs. 1 battles? Triple check!” Until of course someone actually dares to fight back, then it’s time to try to discredit them in any way possible. Sad and pathetic, but there it is. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/14 "2021-12-13T16:07:11Z")
The Tengu was in lowsec. > [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > I have a subsequent question to that, would a limited engagement also allow you to rep the other (not only shoot) while the other has another engagement, or will the game stop that? I think I understand what you mean, can you shoot someone and then rep them? Is that your question? I think before I had a years break some friends tested this and found that you cannot, but I am not 100% certain. > [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > Until of course someone actually dares to fight back, then it’s time to try to discredit them in any way possible. > > Sad and pathetic, but there it is. Yeah they really do get very salty when people fight back. ---
**Author:** ![Emira\_Sultana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emira_sultana/32/298445_2.png) [@Emira\_Sultana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emira_Sultana)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/15 "2021-12-13T16:14:22Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I think the missile tracking disruptor on every ship may have putting him off a bit but he went down fast and our logi kept us all alive Good story. Nice play. You played the game and got a kill, congrats! ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/16 "2021-12-13T16:31:23Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I think I understand what you mean, can you shoot someone and then rep them? Is that your question? I think before I had a years break some friends tested this and found that you cannot, but I am not 100% certain. Sorry, I missed that it was in lowsec (should have checked). Yes, this is what I mean, because this would open a loophole for “neutral reps”. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/17 "2021-12-13T17:24:45Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > And i don’t understand the charitable thing you talk about , our aim on this night and many other nights, is to hunt and kill pirates and pilots **we have decided are undesirable** and that along is our decision, looking at staviabel’s zkill we seem to be spot on with that and he fits our ROE so all good , as he attacked us we had to take action anyway , if we defend carebears in the process then all good. That’s kind of the point, isn’t it? That you’re deciding who’s undesirable and who isn’t, and we don’t know what metrics you use and why. No one says you can’t go into low-sec to get some kills, Githany. In fact, it’s encouraged. What people are questioning is whether this kill falls in line with your stated agenda of interfering with criminally-minded behavior. In this case, it seems like you baited a player into taking an unfavorable fight, and then gang-banged his Tengu. Once again, that’s perfectly cool, and totally what should’ve been done in _any_ situation in my opinion. Kill _all_ the ships. But if you’re going to disguise this as some kind of “policing” act, that’s when your integrity is going to be called into question. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > No , your wrong , some had got close to him why others had been fighting Sansha ships , i was repping our ships still taking pve fire as well as keeping ships alive taking damage from the Tengu . all on grid. So a bunch of obvious PvP ships got in front of some dude’s face, and he fired at them? It sounds like he was already on-grid in that case, and that it was an act of self-defense. I have a hard time believing that an _experienced low-sec solo PvPer_ would red-box a Thorax gang with a Praxis and logistics on the field. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > and as you know my word is as good as a picture I like and respect you, but I’m not going to assume everything you say is true. If not for you necessarily lying, then at _least_ for the possibility that the way you interpreted the situation might’ve been unrealistic and irrational at the time. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I’m suprised people are so upset over our actions but i’ll promise todo more 😇 No one’s upset at the **action,** Githany. As I said, it’s perfectly valid to go into low-sec and kill another player for _any_ reason. People are upset that you’re justifying this action based on some kind of moral standpoint, when the available evidence shows all signs of you either not telling the truth about what happened, or that you misinterpreted the situation and acted contrary to your intent. * * * Also, all of this aside, bragging about killing a single player with 7 ships (plus logistics) as if it was some kind of epic battle is really bad form. It was essentially nothing more than a gank. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/18 "2021-12-13T17:42:49Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > . I have a hard time believing that an _experienced low-sec solo PvPer_ would red-box a Thorax gang with a Praxis and logistics on the field I had a hard time believing it to when he warped in I did not expect him to attack us , maybe he never had pirates little helper running , maybe he thought because we where doing pve he could take us. I can also fight pirates in low sec just like I fight them in high sec I don’t care what people think about morals. They are the same from gankers , low sec gate campers , to low sec pirates , > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > But if you’re going to disguise this as some kind of “policing” act, that’s when your integrity is going to be called into question. Are you clutching at straws to discredit me , I never said a policing act , it was an action to show people how to stop loot thieves , we had reports that it was rampant in the event sites, that’s why it’s in general. This is fitting I believe You know I am no stranger , you know rules are a bore, But just to keep you from danger I AM THE LAW. 👮 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/19 "2021-12-13T18:05:36Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I had a hard time believing it to when he warped in I did not expect him to attack us Which might be the case, and is fine either way, but did you really need to make a thread in GD to brag about killing a player when you outnumbered them ten to one? > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > it was an action to show people how to stop loot thieves Nothing about this action makes it evident this player was a loot thief. You said that your gang approached him, and he fired on you. It sure sounds like you’re making a lot of assumptions about other players, and then acting as the judge, jury, and executioner based on those assumptions. Case in point: > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I can also fight pirates in low sec just like I fight them in high sec I don’t care what people think about morals. > > They are the same from gankers , low sec gate campers , to low sec pirates , Nothing about this player’s combat record makes it evident that they’re a low-sec pirate. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/20 "2021-12-13T18:10:31Z")
Not approach but close to him , remember our ships are blaster fit , that’s why damage is at different lvls , and really we are all judge jury and executioners , this time we was right . So our fight will go on , you know we are true to our path and any who stand in the way will be , well Tengu ed🤔 [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540.md?page=2)