# Eveonline 2019 npc ventures use 5 lasers instead of 2 like the rest of us **URL:** \ **Category:** Science & Industry\ **Created:** [November 13, 2019, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eveonline-2019-npc-ventures-use-5-lasers-instead-of-2-like-the-rest-of-us/200663 "2019-11-13T07:45:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eveonline-2019-npc-ventures-use-5-lasers-instead-of-2-like-the-rest-of-us/200663/41 "2019-11-13T08:46:01Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > And then the miners come back and the spiel starts again. This time, however, you are probably red to the miners so you don’t even have to shoot them to trigger the defense spawn. Again, it’s disappointing to see you like this. Just because something happens after an event doesn’t mean the event is wrong. I wish you the best in figuring this out, since you seem like you need it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eveonline-2019-npc-ventures-use-5-lasers-instead-of-2-like-the-rest-of-us/200663/42 "2019-11-13T11:32:14Z")
You did not tried it yourself did you? They are back in 10 minutes. Pointless entirely. You need t o be able to kill them which requires fleet or top tier skills, solid fit and experience (or exploiting their AI if you know how). ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eveonline-2019-npc-ventures-use-5-lasers-instead-of-2-like-the-rest-of-us/200663/43 "2019-11-13T16:40:42Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > You need t o be able to kill them which requires fleet or top tier skills, solid fit and experience (or exploiting their AI if you know how). You really don’t, but you too, are free to continue being wrong. Anyway, I’m tired of all these kids coming in and being wrong one after another. Good luck to you, @Vokan_Narkar, bc I don’t really care. ---
**Author:** ![Rogue\_Integer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rogue_integer/32/312170_2.png) [@Rogue\_Integer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rogue_Integer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eveonline-2019-npc-ventures-use-5-lasers-instead-of-2-like-the-rest-of-us/200663/44 "2019-11-13T16:53:19Z")
Gas harvesting in wormholes is far more profitable than high sec belt mining, although it does require a bit of an up front investment in the relevant skill. It’s also a bit more risky, of course. OP, if you’re interested in exploration (whether WH gas or data/relic sites across all of EVE), feel free to join the EVE Scout channel in game for friendly help and discussion! ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eveonline-2019-npc-ventures-use-5-lasers-instead-of-2-like-the-rest-of-us/200663/45 "2019-11-14T11:07:44Z")
> [@Rogue\_Integer](#): > > Gas harvesting in wormholes is far more profitable than high sec belt mining, although it does require attention. So no one is doing it while you can AFK mine. ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eveonline-2019-npc-ventures-use-5-lasers-instead-of-2-like-the-rest-of-us/200663/46 "2019-11-14T15:12:50Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Turns out kids these days don’t have the thick skin necessary to cut in EVE. 🙂 Wouldn’t it be better to try and help instead of forum shoot newbies in an attempt to rub a dub an ego? Post how they can get rocks without NPC fleets would be a starter. ---
**Author:** ![Rogue\_Integer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rogue_integer/32/312170_2.png) [@Rogue\_Integer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rogue_Integer)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eveonline-2019-npc-ventures-use-5-lasers-instead-of-2-like-the-rest-of-us/200663/47 "2019-11-14T15:44:27Z")
Sure, but the OP didn’t ask about AFK mining. It certainly does require attention, you are right! ---
**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eveonline-2019-npc-ventures-use-5-lasers-instead-of-2-like-the-rest-of-us/200663/48 "2019-11-14T15:44:54Z")
You can shoot them in a free noobship. ---
**Author:** ![Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/manweru_cemenotar/32/230368_2.png) [@Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Manweru_Cemenotar)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eveonline-2019-npc-ventures-use-5-lasers-instead-of-2-like-the-rest-of-us/200663/49 "2019-11-14T15:45:10Z")
I only see 4 mining lasers on those ventures… that being said it would be nice to have a 4-laser variant. something like venture equivalent of a covetor - can mine alot and fast but requires dedicated hauler to really do if efficiently… EDIT: even picture is named 4 lasers xD so where did OP got 5th laser from xD ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eveonline-2019-npc-ventures-use-5-lasers-instead-of-2-like-the-rest-of-us/200663/50 "2019-11-14T17:37:35Z")
You’re not a new player … … and even if you were … … you’re still a bad person. ---
**Author:** ![Caskas\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caskas_amatin/32/413473_2.png) [@Caskas\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caskas_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eveonline-2019-npc-ventures-use-5-lasers-instead-of-2-like-the-rest-of-us/200663/51 "2019-11-14T19:17:47Z")
Ignore the toxic players. If you want to hangout and mine and chill in high sec send me an ingame mail. I’ve been doing indy for a long time both in high and null. I’m on every weekend and some evenings during the week. My TZ is US East Coast. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eveonline-2019-npc-ventures-use-5-lasers-instead-of-2-like-the-rest-of-us/200663/53 "2020-02-13T07:51:29Z")
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