# Evergreen Daily Login Rewards

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** feedback\
**Created:** [April 28, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219 "2020-04-28T17:07:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mark\_Hadden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_hadden/32/414325_2.png) [@Mark\_Hadden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Hadden)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/276 "2020-08-04T17:23:01Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> and 10 runs on everything else.

only from a max run copy, not the 1 run garbage.

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**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/277 "2020-08-04T17:24:55Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Invented BPC’s will have a single run on a ship BPC and 10 runs on everything else.

Forget about rigs.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/278 "2020-08-04T17:27:25Z")

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The amount of ME, TE and Runs on the input T1 BPC are irrelevant for Invention. Those numbers have a base setting which can be adjusted depending on which type of decryptor is used.

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Hadden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_hadden/32/414325_2.png) [@Mark\_Hadden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Hadden)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/279 "2020-08-04T17:28:19Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> The amount of ME, TE and Runs on the input T1 BPC are irrelevant for Invention.

it is, just like I’ve pointed out. You’ll get 10 run T2 BPC only if the invention base was a max run BPC.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/280 "2020-08-04T17:30:19Z")

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False.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/281 "2020-08-04T17:30:23Z")

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Tech 2 blueprint copies always have 10 runs, +2% ME and +4% TE, unless modified by a decryptor.

T2 BPCs for ships and rigs have 1 run unless modified by a decryptor.

Brother, I hate to say this but the ME, TE and number of Runs on the T1 BPC has no effect on the quality or number of runs on the Invented T2 BPC.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/282 "2020-08-04T17:36:44Z")

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I have some experience with invention.

 ![Inv](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/1/8160a9660d85d3e011c1e2a80147b23a83d1465b.png)

So let me side with the “You are wasting your time inventing with one run freebies” faction.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/283 "2020-08-04T17:39:25Z")

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Strictly speaking, the factions are “I dont want the freebies, so no one should have them” and pretty much everyone else.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/284 "2020-08-04T17:41:53Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> So let me side with the “You are wasting your time inventing with one run freebies” faction.

Brother, you have every right to think that but it still doesn’t negate what I posted earlier.

And what I’m saying is that these BPC Log-in reward’s are basically only good for invention because the ME, TE and amount of Runs on the T1 BPC has no effect on the stats of the Invented T2 BPC…

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/285 "2020-08-04T17:44:53Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Brother, you have every right to think that but it still doesn’t negate what I posted earlier.

Absolutely. I was posting in reference to the little tiff between Ramona and Mark.

He said Invention with …Oh hell…just scroll up. I’m not going to repost the interaction.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/286 "2020-08-04T17:46:20Z")

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The only issue I can see is that a single run T1 BPC takes up the same job slot as a multiple run T1 BPC.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/287 "2020-08-04T17:47:00Z")

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People keep saying that the only part of the giveaway that is worth it are the skillpoints . . . but how much is 150k skillpoints really worth?

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/288 "2020-08-04T17:47:32Z")

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Exactly. And if you do invention, that’s a pretty big issue.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/289 "2020-08-04T17:49:03Z")

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About 210 million ISK, and after extraction costs, 120 million ISK pure profit.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/290 "2020-08-04T17:49:26Z")

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Wow. People really buy those injectors? Amazing.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/291 "2020-08-04T17:50:18Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> People really buy those injectors?

They sure do. And my wallet thanks them for it.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/292 "2020-08-04T17:50:38Z")

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CCP’s wallet, too.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/293 "2020-08-04T17:50:40Z")

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Any character doing serious invention should have close to max Science skills so the amount of job slots being used shouldn’t be a problem… unless you don’t log-in everyday then I can see it being an issue.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/294 "2020-08-04T17:50:46Z")

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Absolutely. I just got finished injecting about 10m SP into a character. Planning on building up another one soon.

I’m actually curious about whether the PLEX or the injection market is the bigger one, at this point…

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evergreen-daily-login-rewards/236219/295 "2020-08-04T17:53:40Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Strictly speaking, the factions are “I dont want the freebies, so no one should have them” and pretty much everyone else.

My personal issue with these rewards, aside from the claiming hassles, is the fact that they devalue player-made/farmed goods.

I guess the impact is small, but if we’re going to uphold EVE’s principles, these rewards aren’t a good idea. It would be better if they were more along the lines of ship skins, clothing, keys to special complexes, etc.

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