# Evernus \[3.8 release\] - the Ultimate Market Tool **URL:** \ **Category:** Third Party Developers\ **Tags:** esi, tool\ **Created:** [June 22, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031 "2017-06-22T15:07:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Pointman\_Absoulution](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pointman_absoulution/32/76582_2.png) [@Pointman\_Absoulution](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pointman_Absoulution)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/424 "2018-06-14T21:24:41Z")
Exactly Lachdanan ☹ I really hope they will put a Human on my ticket … ---
**Author:** ![artist\_D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/artist_d/32/496534_2.png) [@artist\_D](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/artist_D)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/425 "2018-06-14T21:29:50Z")
I am Evernus user, I like Peter’s work. Hope CCP can make proper investigation ---
**Author:** ![Pointman\_Absoulution](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pointman_absoulution/32/76582_2.png) [@Pointman\_Absoulution](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pointman_Absoulution)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/426 "2018-06-14T22:15:23Z")
Just by the way… User EVE-SSO-CONNECTION is banned pending investigation Last login: 2018.06.12 20:50 Number of visits: 3162 The funny thing is if its a “Pending Investigation” why do they bann u in first place? Why don’t they finish the investigation and then ban you… logic pls ---
**Author:** ![Pointman\_Absoulution](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pointman_absoulution/32/76582_2.png) [@Pointman\_Absoulution](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pointman_Absoulution)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/427 "2018-06-14T22:50:17Z")
Is Market Manipulation Bannable or let’s make it easier… let’s say if u Buyout all Warp Disruptors II and put them for 5 Mil isk each… can u get banned for that? ---
**Author:** ![Zymex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zymex/32/379368_2.png) [@Zymex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zymex)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/428 "2018-06-14T23:14:36Z")
If this is true this is beyond retarded by CCP. If Evernus is not allowed to be used, they should shut it down here on the forums first and make a public list of unallowed software. Not do a banwave on software people been using for years. If they ban any of my accounts I will quit Eve for good for sure. I was going to buy the Galaxy Pack, which I will not do now. ---
**Author:** ![Harry\_Naskingar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harry_naskingar/32/78893_2.png) [@Harry\_Naskingar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harry_Naskingar)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/429 "2018-06-14T23:28:32Z")
Of course market manipulation isn’t bannable. Even straight up market scams like buying off all of a 250.000 ISK worth frigate in a station and selling for 250M to fool people who don’t read warnings (like I did once) should be perfectly fine. They banned because they thought we were using market bots. It’s difficult to know for sure exactly what went into the way they made their decision. ---
**Author:** ![Pointman\_Absoulution](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pointman_absoulution/32/76582_2.png) [@Pointman\_Absoulution](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pointman_Absoulution)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/430 "2018-06-15T00:09:46Z")
Thanks Harry Naskingar I asked in help channels around and they said as well it is not bannable… I was just wondering if we got banned because of that but it says for Macro use so yea not because of buying and selling items for 10 times higher price 😉 And yea I know I also got banned for “Macro or Bots”… and never used any its weird whats going on there we can just hope that CCP Clears this mess up soon ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/431 "2018-06-15T04:11:32Z")
Maybe try reaching someone from ccp directly on Twitter? Also, it looks like a good idea to spread the word of this fiasco, and maybe it will get some attention. The amount of false positives is a bit over the top. ---
**Author:** ![Jakov\_Finn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jakov_finn/32/78486_2.png) [@Jakov\_Finn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jakov_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/432 "2018-06-15T06:56:45Z")
We already spread the word on reddit [https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/8qmv82/i\_got\_banned\_for\_macro\_using/?sort=new](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/8qmv82/i_got_banned_for_macro_using/?sort=new) But a lot of users there think that we are crying bot-users, so not a lot of “+” in the post. As I can see we were banned in the same wave, as a lot of chineese guys. ---
**Author:** ![Armis\_Spartan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armis_spartan/32/78589_2.png) [@Armis\_Spartan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armis_Spartan)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/433 "2018-06-15T07:28:03Z")
After reading information for a few days, it seems that the common pattern is that if you recently (no idea how long they tracked us) updated your orders fast and often you get flagged as using a bot to do that. And it did not matter if you used illegal software (bot), legal software (Evernus) or no software at all (plain old “mouse right click -\> modify order”). Same thing is going to happen with the next ban wave if they are not going to look at it now. Be careful when trading now. ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/434 "2018-06-15T07:28:04Z")
Maybe there should be another topic which explains what’s going on - traders seem to be getting banned at random, with not much support from petitions. ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/435 "2018-06-15T07:31:03Z")
I’ll create a post on reddit in about 30 min with some summary. ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/436 "2018-06-15T07:45:48Z")
And here it is: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/8r96sc/the\_great\_trader\_banpocalypse/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/8r96sc/the_great_trader_banpocalypse/) ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/437 "2018-06-15T10:47:21Z")
Someone on reddit says he got the ban removed. ---
**Author:** ![Jakov\_Finn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jakov_finn/32/78486_2.png) [@Jakov\_Finn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jakov_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/438 "2018-06-15T10:48:22Z")
IMPORTANT INFO! I do not get even answer on my petition yet, but TODAY my account was UNBANNED. Silently, without any comment from CCP. The same situation with another trader from my community. We lost 2 days and more important - a lot of nerves. We need to force CCP to give us excuses and proper answer. UPD: It was my post on reddit ---
**Author:** ![Armis\_Spartan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armis_spartan/32/78589_2.png) [@Armis\_Spartan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armis_Spartan)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/439 "2018-06-15T11:06:36Z")
Yes, my trading character`s ban was lifted too. Waiting to see how they will resolve this situation in public now. Will they apologize publicly or just sweep it under the rug silently? Don`t get me wrong, I am all for banning users using illegal software to gain unfair advantage, but wrong doing like this should come with at least an apology. EDIT: Also would like to thank @Pete_Butcher for believing us and all the help he provided to resolve this issue. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Zymex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zymex/32/379368_2.png) [@Zymex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zymex)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/440 "2018-06-15T11:13:28Z")
This may be a lot of false positives in a ban wave. But we still need HARD WRITTEN CONFIRMATION that Evernus is a tool that is allowed. ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/441 "2018-06-15T11:15:15Z")
No tool ever got a written note like that. I got a confirmation directly from security team, and current ban lifts confirm that. ---
**Author:** ![Jakov\_Finn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jakov_finn/32/78486_2.png) [@Jakov\_Finn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jakov_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/442 "2018-06-15T11:34:32Z")
I want to join Armis’ post and say THANK YOU to @Pete_Butcher! It was very important, that you support us in such uncertain situation, even after we all understood that problem was not in your soft. Now we need to help others. ---
**Author:** ![Ling\_Soikutsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ling_soikutsu/32/78646_2.png) [@Ling\_Soikutsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ling_Soikutsu)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/443 "2018-06-15T14:47:19Z")
Just home from work aaaaaaaand… still banned!!! I would really appreciate someone looking into this before the weekend. I mean, if I was botting I would be pretty embarrassed because after a year or so on and off I’ve only really just made my first billion! (Seriously, if someone looked into this it would be clear as day that I was not botting) And also a big thanks to @Pete_Butcher for the help in this matter I will gladly share every single program that was or could have been open on my pc. I’ll let you remotely access my comp if you want CCP! 😣 Edit: Support ticket still open since /wednesday/ (tuesday actually) And these quiet ban lifts? Yesterday people were furious and demanding compensation for 3 hours of downtime (to my surprise, I mean, servers go down sometimes people). A 3 day undeserved ban, that deserves some compensation. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031.md?page=21) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031.md?page=23)