# Evernus \[3.8 release\] - the Ultimate Market Tool **URL:** \ **Category:** Third Party Developers\ **Tags:** esi, tool\ **Created:** [June 22, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031 "2017-06-22T15:07:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Wormhole\_Walter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wormhole_walter/32/14561_2.png) [@Wormhole\_Walter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wormhole_Walter)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/163 "2018-02-07T15:13:52Z")
no longer see any data after importing it from the market analysis screen ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/164 "2018-02-07T15:19:08Z")
Please create a bug report with your main.log file. ---
**Author:** ![FreddyFreedom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/freddyfreedom/32/54783_2.png) [@FreddyFreedom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FreddyFreedom)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/165 "2018-02-21T02:08:34Z")
Hi Pete! Thanks for all your hard work on Evernus. I know you said there is a big update coming…any chance there will be added reporting/tracking for PI manufacturing? Such as a way to mark material buy orders as ‘outgoing’ and PI products/sell orders ‘incoming’? And/or the ability to mark journal/transaction ‘Customs charges’ entries toward the production costs as well? I know I could export the data and probably create a spreadsheet to massage the data but figure it can’t hurt to ask if that functionality is built-in already. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/166 "2018-02-21T05:23:07Z")
All of this is actually already planned, but I still have problems finding much time to work on anything. I was hoping to get it released before the last eve update. ---
**Author:** ![Tormirien\_Starbud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tormirien_starbud/32/56916_2.png) [@Tormirien\_Starbud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tormirien_Starbud)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/167 "2018-02-27T19:59:58Z")
Hi Pete. You’ve done a great job with Evernus. I’d like to request a modification, although I appreciate you’ve got no time, so I might try to find a way to do it myself. Anyhoo… In Preferences -\> Prices, price delta can only be set to a static value (such as 0.01ISK). Instead, I would like to use an algorithm to determine best price. Is there any way this could be done? Ta! ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/168 "2018-02-28T05:14:22Z")
How do you define best price? Now you’re copied price is above (or below) your competitors by delta + random. Do you have some better formula in mind? ---
**Author:** ![Tormirien\_Starbud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tormirien_starbud/32/56916_2.png) [@Tormirien\_Starbud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tormirien_Starbud)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/169 "2018-02-28T06:15:23Z")
As an example I’m thinking something like ``` MyAsk = LowestAsk - (LowestAsk - MovingAvg) * UserDefinedModifier ``` This would set an item’s new sell order price to some value between the current lowest sell orders price and the current market average. The higher a user sets UserDefinedModifier (between 0 and 1) the more aggressive the undercut. Another advantage to this is because Evernus has an idea of a price you’re likely to use, these values can be used to help filter items in Market Analysis because it no longer has to assume you’re seeking highest potential profit. ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/170 "2018-02-28T07:37:15Z")
That seems like a niche use case, but I’ll try to add it. Maybe full custom formulas. ---
**Author:** ![Tormirien\_Starbud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tormirien_starbud/32/56916_2.png) [@Tormirien\_Starbud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tormirien_Starbud)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/171 "2018-02-28T08:51:13Z")
> [@Pete\_Butcher](#): > > Maybe full custom formulas. This would be fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/172 "2018-02-28T12:24:53Z")
Note that there will not be any history data. ---
**Author:** ![Tormirien\_Starbud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tormirien_starbud/32/56916_2.png) [@Tormirien\_Starbud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tormirien_Starbud)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/173 "2018-02-28T13:01:24Z")
I can live with that. ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/174 "2018-02-28T14:28:26Z")
Ok, because your example actually used history data. ---
**Author:** ![Tormirien\_Starbud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tormirien_starbud/32/56916_2.png) [@Tormirien\_Starbud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tormirien_Starbud)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/175 "2018-02-28T14:59:30Z")
Yeah, don’t know why I didn’t consider market average. Um, is there a viable solution that could include it? Because that piece of data is pretty important ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/176 "2018-02-28T15:23:49Z")
Well I can add it as an option, but it will increase price import time. ---
**Author:** ![Tormirien\_Starbud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tormirien_starbud/32/56916_2.png) [@Tormirien\_Starbud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tormirien_Starbud)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/177 "2018-02-28T19:03:02Z")
Ah yes, ESI and it’s insistence on giving you 18 months of market history when you’d rather just have a day, right? ---
**Author:** ![Tormirien\_Starbud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tormirien_starbud/32/56916_2.png) [@Tormirien\_Starbud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tormirien_Starbud)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/178 "2018-03-02T11:01:05Z")
Smee again. Evernus is very crashy when attempting to import market data for the market analysis. It used to be ~50% chance but now it does it every time. It does most of the importing, then just turns unresponsive. ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/179 "2018-03-02T13:13:57Z")
It it indeed crashes (because unresponsive might mean some long running operation on the main thread), please create a bug report with generated dump file. ---
**Author:** ![Tormirien\_Starbud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tormirien_starbud/32/56916_2.png) [@Tormirien\_Starbud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tormirien_Starbud)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/180 "2018-03-05T08:21:37Z")
One dump file: [https://nofile.io/f/HgN5rnh71Bw/2df906dc-9c4a-4112-9bfe-c3b97a8b67dc.dmp](https://nofile.io/f/HgN5rnh71Bw/2df906dc-9c4a-4112-9bfe-c3b97a8b67dc.dmp) ---
**Author:** ![Pete\_Butcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pete_butcher/32/249027_2.png) [@Pete\_Butcher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pete_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/181 "2018-03-05T19:22:29Z")
Will anyone be interested in testing a beta version of the next release? Windows/OSX. ---
**Author:** ![Meigs\_Abre-Kai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meigs_abre-kai/32/495739_2.png) [@Meigs\_Abre-Kai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meigs_Abre-Kai)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031/182 "2018-03-07T00:26:18Z")
I’d be more than willing to! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evernus-3-8-release-the-ultimate-market-tool/6031.md?page=10)