# EVEs early demise might be your fault **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 16, 2023, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863 "2023-07-16T23:05:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/107 "2023-08-17T04:02:44Z")
This wasn’t directed at Frostpacker by any chance? When Longbuck family was born they never once even tried to backstab! Longbuck were as loyal towards Code./Safety ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/108 "2023-08-17T04:47:46Z")
No not at you at all ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/109 "2023-08-17T05:11:13Z")
That’s fine. You might realise that my intentions are wholesome when it relates to how I conduct myself in New Eden. Which reminds me do you know of the reference to be Tanked? My vision in New Eden is to intentionally lose to achieve a win. ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/110 "2023-09-27T13:31:19Z")
Well now im just feeling poor. Thanks guys. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/111 "2023-09-28T17:53:18Z")
> [@Phaade](#): > > Well now im just feeling poor. Solo pvp like proving grounds doesn’t really pay? Don’t they reward ++ISK for wins? ---
**Author:** ![Graham\_Acami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/graham_acami/32/388655_2.png) [@Graham\_Acami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Graham_Acami)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/112 "2023-10-01T11:20:19Z")
One billion won’t even cover a marauder hull. ---
**Author:** ![vaseel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vaseel/32/389988_2.png) [@vaseel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/vaseel)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/113 "2023-10-10T23:14:02Z")
15 years ago when I first started playing, 1 billion was rich. Now… I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/114 "2023-10-10T23:48:20Z")
The average wealth is just under 9 billion. Though, admittedly, I’m not sure if that’s an accumulation value of all assets, or just liquid. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/115 "2023-10-11T00:52:54Z")
The slide in question you’re referring to includes assets, but only includes omega accounts and is per player rather than per character ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/116 "2023-10-11T04:14:58Z")
Median would be interesting, because 9B/player seems VERY low to me. seems like bots are also considered … ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/117 "2023-10-11T06:07:30Z")
Active bots would have to be included, because CCP bans botting accounts when they find them. ---
**Author:** ![Lesican](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lesican/32/448285_2.png) [@Lesican](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lesican)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/118 "2023-10-12T11:54:48Z")
both, here is the graph ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/8/d/38decdd9a253389894cb39acfcb97d2e7dc297a2.png) ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/119 "2023-10-12T12:42:36Z")
so 9 is median and 42 is average. Is that considering only active players ? I guess an inactive one would not keep omega status for long. This toon is in the top 1%(combined assets only, no plex/market escrow). Is that rich ? How do you call top 1/1000 ? ultra rich ? and top 1/10000 giga rich ? What would middle class be ? 25-75% ? and what is the limit to be considered poor ? \<5% ? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/120 "2023-10-12T13:09:57Z")
> [@Lesican](#): > > both, here is the graph I presume when it says ‘player’ it is summing all the assets of any player across multiple accounts…though it is not clear whether that includes Alpha accounts owned by Omega players. About 10% of my wealth is owned by Alphas. My spreadsheet shows 25% of my wealth is in ISK and 75% in assets. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/121 "2023-10-12T13:32:18Z")
Nice I am about middle class in EVE. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rockhopper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rachael_rockhopper/32/380922_2.png) [@Rachael\_Rockhopper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rachael_Rockhopper)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/122 "2023-10-30T02:56:35Z")
Right now about 90% of all my assets is veldspar and scordite rocks… Almost 1 billion rocks… All my income comes from project discovery I am happy with that 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/123 "2023-10-30T06:58:31Z")
lol, i didnt know i´m one of the top 1% xD i always though that i´m above the average but not the bigest fish in the ozean… crazy sheet ---
**Author:** ![Vizkomaru\_Togashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vizkomaru_togashi/32/464153_2.png) [@Vizkomaru\_Togashi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vizkomaru_Togashi)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/124 "2023-10-30T16:12:46Z")
Yes, you’re rich, gratz! Something tells me your gonna be here again when your reach your first trillion… ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/125 "2023-10-30T16:37:02Z")
you sound a bit salty ? Is it possible that you are jealous of others? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863/126 "2023-10-30T17:24:24Z")
> [@Vizkomaru\_Togashi](#): > > Yes, you’re rich, gratz! How do you know he’s rich? Because he said so? lol He’s not rich. Mr Epeen 🕶 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-early-demise-might-be-your-fault/412863.md?page=7)