# Eve's War Dec Groups and who are they **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 22, 2022, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828 "2022-03-22T07:36:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/224 "2022-06-09T13:28:58Z")
Part of me thinks all of this is just foreplay ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/225 "2022-06-09T13:33:52Z")
I feel like we need to take Drac and Destiny push them together and say… “now kiss”. There is definitely some tension that needs releasing between the two with some vigorous love making. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/226 "2022-06-09T13:39:15Z")
I had no problem (none out of the confines of the video game setting) with him until he engaged in real-life bigotry and in enabling real-life bigotry. At that point it went completely beyond the game, and now he’s getting treated like a subhuman piece of garbage. This can’t and won’t ever change because those lines have been crossed. It’s like that guy who told me that I was molested by my father; there’s just no possible combination of actions or events that would “fix” or “undo” that after that line has been crossed. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/227 "2022-06-09T14:06:00Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I actually took time off from work to make it to the defense. Do these attacks get announced in advance ? I mean like ’ we’re coming to attack your HQ at 18:00 on xyz date ’ ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/228 "2022-06-09T15:03:45Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > It takes an extraordinary level of stupidity to criticize someone for doing something, and then use that same action as a defensive argument in your next statement, but you’ve been a consistent trailblazer in this regard. Wat? You are so touchy, it is amazing. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > No, you definitely weren’t asking; that’s not how people _ask._ You were throwing ■■■■ at the wall to see if some of it would stick. Unfortunately for you, the splash-back got right into your open, drooling mouth. Wat? Were you in the lowsec engagement, yes/no? > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I had no problem (none out of the confines of the video game setting) with him until he engaged in real-life bigotry and in enabling real-life bigotry. Link it like I asked before and you failed to do, just because you and others keep throwing it out as if it is true does not make it so. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > and now he’s getting treated like a subhuman piece of garbage You have been doing that for some time mate and way before your pretend excuse. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > It’s like that guy who told me that I was molested by my father; there’s just no possible combination of actions or events that would “fix” or “undo” that after that line has been crossed. Just when I think you can’t go any lower you do, way to go tiger. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/229 "2022-06-09T15:07:02Z")
Is that 2nd base? ---
**Author:** ![Raylan\_Yutani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raylan_yutani/32/312133_2.png) [@Raylan\_Yutani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raylan_Yutani)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/230 "2022-06-09T15:15:31Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Link it like I asked before and you failed to do, just because you and others keep throwing it out as if it is true does not make it so. This comment, perhaps? [https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-ganking-is-one-of-the-main-reasons-for-the-outflow-of-new-players/350936/552](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-ganking-is-one-of-the-main-reasons-for-the-outflow-of-new-players/350936/552) ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/231 "2022-06-09T15:16:11Z")
Is what I said in any way bigoted? ---
**Author:** ![Raylan\_Yutani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raylan_yutani/32/312133_2.png) [@Raylan\_Yutani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raylan_Yutani)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/232 "2022-06-09T15:17:16Z")
Enabling bigotry and putting it down to different “cultural norms”. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/233 "2022-06-09T15:18:33Z")
So by stating that Russian culture has that as a norm and suggesting a less offensive more nuanced insult which has nothing to do with homosexuality I am enabling bigotry, seriously…, that is ultra dumb. Just because you lot are pretending does not make it so. NB. As a footnote Australian Excellence routinely called people soy boy, but none of these outstanding citizens of the Eve forums ever called him out on it, who would have thunk? ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/234 "2022-06-09T15:24:46Z")
Oh come on man. The guy was all over that thread using “gay” as an insult as well as using several other unacceptable references. And there you are giving him them. “If you say it this way you are less likely to be flagged to the moderators”. Accepting what he said as fine and also coaching him how to get around moderation. How you cant see that what you did there is positively icky is beyond me. Whatever your “intention” in retrospect you must see how saying what you said could be seen as support for homophobia? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/235 "2022-06-09T15:29:07Z")
People can read it and see what you are suggesting is rubbish. My sentence was not homophobic in any way shape or form, in fact I did not even mention it. So you can spin it all you want, but it ain’t going to fly. And there you go, my so called bigotry… that Destiny rants about, a non-event, non-existent. So when he goes off on his rant, see it as the lie it is and then think about just how much he lies in other areas too. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/236 "2022-06-09T15:33:04Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > People can read it Yes they can. And i encourage them to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/237 "2022-06-09T15:37:11Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > How you cant see that what you did there is positively icky is beyond me. Whatever your “intention” in retrospect you must see how saying what you said could be seen as support for homophobia? Can you throw in a “Yikes!” And maybe the word “systemic” - for good measure? ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/238 "2022-06-09T15:39:52Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > How you cant see that what you did there is positively icky is beyond me. Whatever your “intention” in retrospect you must see how saying what you said could be seen as support for systemic homophobia? **YIKES!!!** How does that work for you? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/239 "2022-06-09T16:19:27Z")
> [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#): > > I feel like we need to take Drac and Destiny push them together and say… “now kiss”. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWGkiROS5a0) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/240 "2022-06-09T18:03:06Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Do these attacks get announced in advance ? I mean like ’ we’re coming to attack your HQ at 18:00 on xyz date ’ Once the reinforcement happens, everyone knows what time the station will come out of the waiting timer. Then there’s a period of time during which it can be shot again. So yes, there’s an announcement in and out of game. The initial attack to take down the shields can come at any time, and will usually be successful because by the time people can gather for a defense, the shields will be gone. With the most recent changes, HQ defenders essentially get just one opportunity to defend their HQ (if it’s a small structure), with the defense window taking place the next day plus/minus a few hours. It’s a signal from CCP that they don’t like wars, and want them further restricted. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/241 "2022-06-09T18:50:30Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > With the most recent changes, HQ defenders essentially get just one opportunity to defend their HQ (if it’s a small structure), Medium structure, small structures do not exist in Eve, even though they were promised. Do you get anything right? > **[Maller | Alexander-bg | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/101372905/)** > > Alexander-bg (Hemus) lost their Maller in Isanamo (Lonetrek) Total Value: 11,537,345.61 ISK Caldari space? Communication sure sucks in your alliance… ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/242 "2022-06-09T19:47:51Z")
We moved all our warHQ’s to Fortizars. They still have 2 timers. Medium structures as warHQ are pointless now. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/243 "2022-06-09T19:56:44Z")
> [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#): > > We moved all our warHQ’s to Fortizars. > > They still have 2 timers. Medium structures as warHQ are pointless now. This isn’t viable for everyone. Not everyone has the bankroll to drop 12-15 billion per war HQ which, let’s face it, will still be taken down by an entity that’s able to casually outnumber you 5:1. This is what CCP wants, of course. The aim here was drastically increasing expenditures for a large number of small groups because collective spending has a _massive_ scope. Players are going to buy more PLEX to sell for more ISK to replace their space huts. There was literally no rational precedent for making the structure changes the made otherwise. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Caldari space? Communication sure sucks in your alliance… No, our communication is great. It’s just your reading comprehension that’s severely deficient. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828.md?page=13)