# Eve's War Dec Groups and who are they **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 22, 2022, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828 "2022-03-22T07:36:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/284 "2022-06-10T17:01:30Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I simply can’t be bothered fighting on behalf of people who don’t help themselves. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > why bother helping people who can’t help themselves. This is the paradox of the antigwanker. By the time you learn enough to actually know how to antigank, you also find yourself with no desire to do it. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/285 "2022-06-10T17:12:01Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Don’t bother trying to explain, those people won’t _get_ it. They’re basically null-sec players in high-sec. The only reason they’re even here is because they received orders to post, like when he-who-can’t-be-named-unless-I-want-a-permaban-from-the-game makes a thread and 15 minutes later there’s like 300 temps liking his post. Now you are just making stuff up. You cannot accuse others of not knowing anything if you end making the same mistakes. In my mind now, you know just as much as you think Drac knows. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/286 "2022-06-10T17:16:04Z")
> [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#): > > Now you are just making stuff up. I’m not doing anything that your temp up there isn’t doing, so it’s fine. > [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#): > > You cannot accuse others of not knowing anything if you end making the same mistakes. In my mind now, you know just as much as you think Drac knows. Here’s the thing about that, chief: unlike Dracvlad, I don’t go around telling grandiose war stories, analyzing conflicts I wasn’t a part of, and lecturing players like some kind of authority. Mostly I just express my opinions and have fun. _You_ (and by extension your group) on the other hand are the antithesis to fun. You’re literally making threats of repercussions for people based purely on whether you like their forum posting or not. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/287 "2022-06-10T17:20:52Z")
So we are disputing the fact that somebody lost a ship? Was he wrong? In any event I would use a stormbringing against anything smaller than a BC. The BS weapon of the Thunderchild applies damage just as bad as Cruise Missiles. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/288 "2022-06-10T17:23:27Z")
> [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#): > > So we are disputing the fact that somebody lost a ship? Was he wrong? No, we’re disputing asinine smack-talk, like this: > [@](#): > > Haha less then 24 hours so far and eve uni is destroying RIOT. This is so dam funny. Bunch of newbies destroying a so called merc corp. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/289 "2022-06-10T17:28:39Z")
Smack talk is smack talk. There is a difference between making stuff up and smack talking. In his eyes, he sees riot loosing 1.6bill ships to a few destroyers. Fair enough if they are having fun, and yes he is smacktalking because “mercs”. But if you are going to so touchy maybe this really is not your thing. Smack all you want… just don’t lie. I do not have a problem with RIOT but you are not helping now. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/290 "2022-06-10T17:32:28Z")
> [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#): > > Smack all you want Thank you for your permission. > [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#): > > I do not have a problem with RIOT but you are not helping now. I don’t represent anyone’s in-game social or political news but my own. And trying to control my posting by low-key threatening my friends is low and petty as ■■■■, like I already said in a previous post. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/291 "2022-06-10T17:33:50Z")
On the forums you a representative of RIOT by virtue of being in it. Just like I am of BF and so on. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/292 "2022-06-10T17:36:59Z")
That is your opinion. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/293 "2022-06-10T17:39:26Z")
I find it ironic that you are happy to flaunt your allegiance on the forums when somebody complains or gets ganked. But when it is the other way around you buckle heavily under pressure. I understand now. As such, this will be my last post in the thread just to safe guard your fragile ego. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/294 "2022-06-10T17:48:20Z")
There’s no buckling. I have tens of thousands of posts on these forums, and have been posting in a _very_ consistent manner and with a _very_ consistent ideology for the better part of two decades. You just don’t like getting called out on your ■■■■, and I **get** that, I really _do._ But telling someone to change how they act and their entire personality, and that if they don’t then there will be repercussions for their friends et cetera, is indeed _low and petty._ I’ve certainly never done, or would do, anything like that. And I think that the only reason you’re doing this is that you’re aware that I’m not in the least bit afraid of you people. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/295 "2022-06-10T18:01:35Z")
> [@Stephan\_Pappotte](#): > > Haha less then 24 hours so far and eve uni is destroying RIOT. Dodixie again ? I’ve seen that a number of times there. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/296 "2022-06-10T18:02:16Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > _You_ (and by extension your group) on the other hand are the antithesis to fun. You’re literally making threats of repercussions for people based purely on whether you like their forum posting or not. Yeah that’s kinda ■■■■. Keep the forums on the forums. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/297 "2022-06-10T18:09:56Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > Keep the forums on the forums. Watch, these petty-ass muhfuggers gon’ be writing mails to our leadership to shut me up or get me kicked out now. I’ve seen that ■■■■ happen like a dozen times to people over the years. Like I said, _null-sec players._ This isn’t even a _game_ to them anymore. Feel free to join us if you want to stand up to this bull■■■■. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/298 "2022-06-10T18:13:19Z")
I’m pretty independent. There’s no one to mail. I mean, I guess they’re free to mail my CEO/copilot but he’s probably just gonna laugh about it on comms with me later. At this point his play style is pretty much voyeuring the reactions I get out of people. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/299 "2022-06-10T20:29:19Z")
Some one is happy to dish it out but doesn’t seem to like getting it back , but that’s not surprising really what did I expect 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/300 "2022-06-10T20:37:19Z")
> [@Stephan\_Pappotte](#): > > Bunch of newbies destroying a so called merc corp. Ivy killing RIOT aside (which is great as a separate thing), the interesting thing about EVE-Uni is how they are able to maintain the “bunch of newbies” impression. Having clashed with them quite a bit over the years in their nullsec campus, Ivy are the oldest “bunch of newbies” in the game (and rightly so, as they need experienced members in order to teach genuine new players). Taking that killmail on Cpt Hansen for example, the ages of the attackers in days: [3421, 778, 322, 191, 5061, 278, 3046, 80, 797, 780, 256, 3599, 477, 202, 1396, 778] They are a great place for new players to join (as long as they don’t want to seriously learn pvp), but they aren’t really a “bunch of newbies”. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/301 "2022-06-10T20:42:25Z")
Who was complaining about eve university using a mass Tristan fleet with a drone blob kill a structure like it was an exploit, I thought it was genius idea. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/302 "2022-06-10T21:52:07Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > it’s the small ones that escape notice I’m interested in. I finally did a little more than zapping pods. This war dec stuff is great fun… > **[Astrahus | New Eden Logistics Service | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/101398805/)** > > (New Eden Logistics Service) lost their Astrahus in Yoma (Lonetrek). Final Blow by Altara Zemara (Absolute Order IX) flying in a Gnosis. Total Value: 1,496,779,026.84 ISK ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828/303 "2022-06-10T22:01:43Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > This war dec stuff is great fun… You’re in the wrong group for that. Unless you enjoy shooting undefended, abandoned structures, I guess? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eves-war-dec-groups-and-who-are-they/354828.md?page=16)