# \[Excubitoris Chapter\] Duty and Service to Amarr **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Tags:** roleplay, amarr\ **Created:** [December 1, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/excubitoris-chapter-duty-and-service-to-amarr/339757 "2021-12-01T23:25:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 15
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/excubitoris-chapter-duty-and-service-to-amarr/339757/15 "2021-12-02T21:21:10Z")
> [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](#): > > So, first I would note that Khimi Harar’s most public worries about the Floseswin campaign were not worded as a direct attack on an heir’s statement, and potentially on the Empire itself, the way Lady Newelle’s just were. That document publicly _questioned_, which is an act of which I still cannot approve, but it was not a condemnation. Khimi Harar’s constant and consistent record of good work for the Empire is worth far more to me than that single event. > [@Petition to the Throne, Imperial Majesty Catiz I](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-the-throne-imperial-majesty-catiz-i/196789): > > Dearest and Most Sublime and Imperial Majesty Catiz I, care of Cardinal Sourem, Capsuleer Emissary to the Court Chamberlain, Re: [Statement](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/militia-corruption-breaking-the-deafening-silence-on-dirty-deals/196136/85) “Additionally, His Grace has seen fit to commission labour acquisition expeditions to each and every system in the Upper Rebel Provinces currently held by the forces of the 24th Imperial Crusade. All labour acquisition specialist groups will be accompanied by troops drawn from the Shining Flame company, the Red and Silver Hand company, and the Order of St… > We, and those who sign along with us below, appeal to the Empress and the Privy Council to take action against these plans before they do irreparable harm to the Empire and your Majesty’s legacy and visions for the future. The straightforward wording of the petition states Lord Sarum was enacting a policy that would do irreperable harm to the Empire and Her Majesty’s legacy and visions for the future. There is nothing indirect about this, and what is more egregious is that it was an attempt to undermine House Sarum’s authority in action while presuming the Empress’s disposition, not just disagreeing with the wording of an Heir’s statement as my lady has. We made a request in private to retract or adjust the wording of the petition to Khimi Harar not two months ago. They refused. The insinuation they leveled still stands, years after the policy has been allowed to be implemented. > [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](#): > > Second, my stance on the issue you allude to is entirely consistent with where I am now. I even recall writing similar essays on Duty and Loyalty at the time. Yet this stance seems to have changed since the Excubitoris Chapter joined with Khimi Harar. I remember an order that once thought it unthinkable, loathsome, and an indication of moral weakness to _not_ ahbor the heretic, as the oath states. Making lengthy documents to worm one’s way into a more comfortable position when taking orders from heretics and worse does not seem fitting. Please clarify how this is in any way consistent with the Chapter’s past positions. > [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](#): > > Third, another group making an error of judgement certainly should not make it ok for House Newelle to directly criticise an Heir. Not to mention the implicit, though I pray unintentional, suggestion that the Empire had failed God’s Test all the way back in the Reign of Heideran, which was the first time we put aside these specific differences to work with the Minmatar Tribes against a common foe. No, it would not, but as _my_ duty dictates, I stand by my lady’s word and shall defend her to the end. > [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](#): > > I worry that those now surrounding the Newelle’s sound increasingly like the recent Khanid Equilibrium of Mankind traitor. Lord-Consort Newelle even is in the same alliance as that heretic’s chosen Blood Raider Champion! I pray that this trajectory shifts, and that they right the course and continue to work for the good of Amarr. That wretch has not shown his face in years. Rest assured, I am making efforts to have that ridiculous fool expelled from the alliance, his corporation dissolved, and the last vestiges of it buried and forgotten. Pray tell, are you making efforts to dismantle Electus Matari? I do hope so. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/excubitoris-chapter-duty-and-service-to-amarr/339757)._