# Expanding Criminal Activities in High-Sec **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 10, 2025, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326 "2025-06-10T11:11:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/327 "2025-06-27T12:50:52Z")
Ganker is not derived from “gang killer”, that’s absurd. Ganking comes from the chivralic order of the High Gaenking, who marshalled the forces of the Holy Roman Empire against the barbarian hordes. The gaenkers of old were great knights and heraldic maidens of the fairest sort, who did give fair battle in alignment with the honour and dignitie of the all mighty imperial CODE. I should note, in recent years, it has been popular to pronounce the k (perhaps leading to your confusion about killing), but this is in fact a silent k equivalent to that in k-night. So the correct pronounciation is gan-ing. As in, I am gaining and you are losing. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/328 "2025-06-27T12:54:09Z")
It did not begin with CODE. This has been going on in New Eden for 20 years. Thrashers swarming in a system, bumping a mining ship, swarming it, and blowing it up before Concord arrives. Mining ships were upgraded which made it more difficult. Players adapted which made it easier again. It’s gone on since the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/329 "2025-06-27T12:55:17Z")
How come gaenking keeps getting easier? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/330 "2025-06-27T12:58:17Z")
When did I imply one way or the other? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/331 "2025-06-27T12:58:49Z")
You don’t even read your own posts. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/332 "2025-06-27T12:59:41Z")
That post I just made? That was about time long past. Before CODE. That was a one-time incident. It in no way was meant to reflect the ongoing progression of Eve Online. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/333 "2025-06-27T13:02:07Z")
If you want to know more about gaenking long past, I recommend you vist the Bodleian at Oxford. The Tolkein archive holds some of the oldest accounts of the Graet Gaenkings of Yore, and you may enjoy the Tapestry of Tears. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/334 "2025-06-27T13:03:30Z")
Why? So I can learn the numbers game? Damage needed to overcome EHP of the target divided by the number of ships vs. the number of seconds before Concord arrives depending upon the security level of the system? It’s not that hard. You needed a degree for that? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/335 "2025-06-27T13:04:00Z")
Why? So you can prove, once and for all, that ganking is easy. You talk a lot, but talk is cheap. ---
**Author:** ![oleo\_especial](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oleo_especial/32/465638_2.png) [@oleo\_especial](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/oleo_especial)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/336 "2025-06-27T13:06:48Z")
\*Bodleian Library, pronounced by locals as “Boom Libby”. Edit: Somebody edited their post from Bodelian to the correct spelling. Good job ! ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/337 "2025-06-27T13:07:33Z")
Because I don’t want to. It’s my game. But sure- pay me 5 billion ISK per kill and I’ll join you. I’ll cover the cost of my ships, but you’ll pay me 5 billion ISK per kill. It’s my account and it’s my time. Otherwise, I continue doing what I want to do. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/338 "2025-06-27T13:09:12Z")
Who are you talking to? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/339 "2025-06-27T13:09:42Z")
You. The one who keeps insisting that I do a job for free that I don’t want to do. Pay me. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/340 "2025-06-27T13:19:27Z")
Why would I pay you to gank? You yourself said it is easy. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/341 "2025-06-27T14:51:13Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > But sure- pay me 5 billion ISK per kill With your tanked skiff? ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2026, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expanding-criminal-activities-in-high-sec/489326/345 "2026-06-19T01:08:47Z")
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