# Experiment: Putting toxic PVEr's who hate HS Gankers on mute and ignore list **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Tags:** pvp\ **Created:** [June 13, 2025, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778 "2025-06-13T10:59:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/1 "2025-06-13T10:59:18Z")
My experiment on Putting toxic PVEr’s who hate HS Gankers on mute and ignore list gives me peace of mind. Why is that? I thought Gankers were the toxic ones and bullies? Several comments already proving the point. The way a gamer plays Eve-Online doesn’t necessarily reflect the persons behavior in real life. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/2 "2025-06-13T12:24:38Z")
Don’t forget to add me to that list. I don’t hate PvP, but here? I can’t stand the mental state of the HS gankers in this game. They’re toxic. Fragile egos and arrogance. ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/3 "2025-06-13T12:28:08Z")
Just mark everyone red. Friends, family, your own children. Add Contact \> Standing: Terrible \> Save ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/4 "2025-06-13T12:51:09Z")
several comments already proving the point. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/5 "2025-06-13T13:53:23Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > My experiment on Putting toxic PVEr’s who hate HS Gankers on mute and ignore list gives me peace of mind. Why is that? Probably because its like listening to a stuck gramophone record that drones on for 20 years. Quite how the CIA has not yet discovered this method of torture yet is beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/6 "2025-06-13T14:25:03Z")
Yeah I have been reading forums to drive off boredom that happens in game outside EU primetime, but what the gankhaters and crybears shows here lately is too much. Constant spam, constant cries for 100% safe highsec and ganking nefs, zero self-reflection, they don’t discuss constructively, they don’t accept counter arguments. Nah, they made this forum cesspool that I no longer bother to read. Well done. > [@Glenduil](#): > > Don’t forget to add me to that list. I don’t hate PvP, but here? I can’t stand the mental state of the HS gankers in this game. They’re toxic. Fragile egos and arrogance. Yeah, I decided you go to my ignore list as well. Another case of “I am not against PvP” but constantly spamming anti-ganking proposals and don’t discuss in good faith from the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/7 "2025-06-13T14:30:16Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Well done. Maybe they have a plan and play the long meta… > [@Should life be harder for gankers?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/23): > > They don’t care about these even if they realize it. Just like how the ore they mine is free. wink So if their quest is to get rid of the gankers and ganking that’s a meta goal they might pursue no matter what. Besides they might prefer to “fight” over yields and accept the reduced profits if they can AFK mine in peace so in the end they might still prefer to reduce ganking as much as possible. And how much it can be reduced only depends on how much CCP is willing to give in to carebear deman… > [@How do you define ganking, pvp and trolling](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/790): > > face_with_hand_over_mouth By the way anyone who’s paying attention can see if they keep complaining CCP will nerf things more and more, just as in the past, many times, until even ganking will be gone. So yeah if they have the persistence and numbers CCP will bend to their will. Will see if they have what it takes to win the meta in the end. thinking Some people (according to their midnset) define it as: Of course their definition has nothing to do with reality or facts, but the quest… If they persist and grown in numbers even they might win eventually. 🤔 🍿 :ccpguard: 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/8 "2025-06-13T15:10:58Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > If they persist and grown in numbers even they might win eventually ‘Against stupidity we are defenceless’ ( Bonhoeffer ) ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/9 "2025-06-13T15:58:40Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Maybe they have a plan and play the long meta… Maybe, but what can they win by that? CCP doesn’t care what happens on forum. You can get 50 ppls support your suggestion and they won’t care, this is just playground to entertain ourselves by ourselves. If their goal is to annoy and bother their enemies then by blocking them I prevented them from winning. They can’t do that to me anymore. And if nobody objects against their stupid ideas they soon lose interest and finally leave. But even if not, I really don’t care if they spam antiganking threads every day and they get another 10 idiots supporting them how awesome idea it is. It changes nothing, CCP won’t do it. And while it is very likely that their constant crying here and on reddit brings another set of ganking nerfs into game, we, gankers, will HTFU and adapt. Or we don’t, we quit and this game dies. Simple as that. I am all for removing highsec ganking from this game. I want to finally retire and have a life! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/10 "2025-06-13T16:18:41Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > I want to finally retire and have a life! Not like Aiko points a Neutron Blaster to your head or something forcing you to stay and keep doing it. 🤔 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/11 "2025-06-13T17:42:05Z")
I bet that most of them are just alts of single person. Probably the same guy we all blocked last year. I don’t get it why they constantly use new and new alts with no history on zkill. I don’t see the ganklers doing that. Only those who oppose suicide ganking. I wonder why… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/12 "2025-06-13T19:20:03Z")
Yes, it’s all the same guy. There’s only like a dozen of us who use this forums, we obviously can all recognize each other. ---
**Author:** ![Tarax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarax/32/420205_2.png) [@Tarax](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarax)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/13 "2025-06-27T12:44:44Z")
Being a ganker has nothing to do with how Toxic you are. I’ve known PLENTY of very toxic guys that have never ganked. Victims feel victimized only because CCP has purposely misled them. Ganking is a Numbers game, and not a social decision. Fact is, that 9 out of 10 “legit” PvP engagements involve odds that are at least 3:1, and quite often, 10:1; Basically a slaughter with no chance the defender can even fight at all. It’s just ganking no matter where it’s being done. The difference is that a Ganker has the balls to lose his ships with every attempted gank. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/14 "2025-06-27T12:57:29Z")
> [@Tarax](#): > > The difference is that a Ganker has the balls to lose his ships with every attempted gank. It’s not courage when you’re losing a ship that is worth 5 times less than the ship that’s being destroyed. It’s strategic, but not courage. Let’s not over-inflate that ego. Gankers need so many ships because they’re only using worthless ones. Gankers don’t fly the good ships. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/15 "2025-06-27T12:59:52Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > It’s not courage when you’re losing a ship that is worth 5 times less than the ship that’s being destroyed. It is when you have to fight CONCORD. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/16 "2025-06-27T13:00:49Z")
You don’t fight Concord. You fight a timer. There’s a difference. It’s a math equation and an easy one at that. That math is done before the fight starts… usually. Seriously… aren’t you like the head of CODE? Why am I explaining this to you? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/17 "2025-06-27T13:02:55Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > It’s a math equation and an easy one at that. Then, tell me Glen, why can’t you do it? How am I able to have a killboard, and you aren’t? It’s such an easy math equation, why can’t you solve it? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/18 "2025-06-27T13:05:45Z")
I can do it. I don’t want to. Pay me 5 billion ISK per kill and I’ll join you. I’ll cover the cost of my ships, but you’ll pay me 5 billion ISK per ship to cover my time. Otherwise, I play this game how I choose. It’s my account. It’s my time. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/19 "2025-06-27T13:08:27Z")
Well, I’ll play the game how I want then. Ok? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778/20 "2025-06-27T13:10:03Z")
sure thing. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/experiment-putting-toxic-pvers-who-hate-hs-gankers-on-mute-and-ignore-list/489778.md?page=2)