# Expert Systems - Coming Soon! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** official\ **Created:** [February 25, 2021, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479 "2021-02-25T12:01:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/477 "2021-03-03T17:34:46Z")
Hey, you do you, I’m just saying, you could be bringing back an entire day’s worth of ore to manufacture with every 10 minutes or so. And time… time is the least replaceable thing in the equation. ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/478 "2021-03-03T17:39:57Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > you could be bringing back an entire day’s worth of ore to manufacture with every 10 minutes or so. Not when my Venture goes KAMOOM now could I ? > [@Arrendis](#): > > time is the least replaceable thing in the equation As long as I have fun, time is ok to lose. And EVE is a lot of fun. I do other things besides going to Null. P.I and ratting is fun too. Even the missions are fun. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/479 "2021-03-03T17:42:11Z")
> [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > Not when my Venture goes KAMOOM now could I ? Again, it’s a lot less likely to do that than the corvette, but you do you. ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/480 "2021-03-03T17:49:48Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Again, it’s a lot less likely to do that than the corvette Again, so _you_ say. > [@Arrendis](#): > > but you do you. We agree. ---
**Author:** ![Gale\_Nahrnid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gale_nahrnid/32/234682_2.png) [@Gale\_Nahrnid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gale_Nahrnid)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/481 "2021-03-03T19:07:58Z")
Just thinking about the possible exploits makes me shiver. Can you guys imagine a Catalyst/hecate fleet made up of expendable maxed out new accounts? Or a dreadnought fleet/nightmare fleet/100ab legion fleet with 7-day gods? Just terrifying. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/482 "2021-03-03T19:54:05Z")
> [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > Again, so _you_ say. Yeah, but what do I know about what’s more or less likely to die, right? After all, I’ve only been out here in null for almost ten years, and I’m just the person in charge of ship fittings for the biggest nullsec alliance in the game. 😉 I try _not_ to actually offer opinions on things unless I have a clue. But that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/483 "2021-03-03T19:56:14Z")
> [@Gale\_Nahrnid](#): > > Just thinking about the possible exploits makes me shiver. > > Can you guys imagine a Catalyst/hecate fleet made up of expendable maxed out new accounts? Or a dreadnought fleet/nightmare fleet/100ab legion fleet with 7-day gods? > > Just terrifying. Well, none of the Expert Systems we’ve seen indicated so far point to those things. So far, it’s ‘here! have this _1_ skill so you can use an MWD!’ or ‘here! Fly [racial] frigates in exploration sites!’ and at _most_, ‘here! Now you can fly a Mining Barge!’. That’s the big one, so far. I _seriously_ doubt you’re going to see these things offered as ‘hey, highsec newbie! HOW’D YOU LIKE TO FLY A DREAD?!?’ newbies tend to not have the 2b for the hull, nor to be in low/null. ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/484 "2021-03-03T20:27:27Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Yeah, but what do I know about what’s more or less likely to die, right? After all, I’ve only been out here in null for almost ten years, and I’m just the person in charge of ship fittings for the biggest nullsec alliance in the game I didn’t ask for your opinion. Let me play the game the way I want to. What is it to you if I haul 150m3 of ore 20x or 200x ? What do you care whether I reach Null through a wormhole or a gate? If you want to look helpful and pretend on the forum, do it with someone else. I never asked you for anything. I don’t need your opinion or your help. Play mother Theresa with someone else. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/485 "2021-03-03T20:50:23Z")
> [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > What is it to you Absolutely nothing, but you know, the vast majority of people are total jerks, so letting them know what annoys you is almost _guaranteed_ to get them to keep doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Ocean\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ocean_ormand/32/206896_2.png) [@Ocean\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ocean_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/486 "2021-03-03T21:00:41Z")
> [@addelee](#): > > Dumbing down nullsec is not the answer to an increasingly dumbed down game. If thats the impression you got from my response - then its not what I meant. What I was trying to say that CCP should create a newbee area - say three linked systems one hs, one low and one null, and then have the new players run newbee missions back and forth through those systems with an effort to expose those players early in their careers to low and null play. Im not suggesting that low or null be changed at all, only that CCP make an effort to give new players the an area where they can engage in combat with other news players in a reasonable and limited way. ---
**Author:** ![Ocean\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ocean_ormand/32/206896_2.png) [@Ocean\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ocean_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/487 "2021-03-03T21:04:33Z")
> [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > I feel like people who live in Null think it’s _their_ space, like newer players aren’t allowed to go and be in Null to do whatever they want - I almost wrote “get away with”, so much it feels like Null is Private Property and only _they_ are allowed to be in Null - and have fun there killing pirates, mine or whatever. I dont know why you think this is a “null” issue. Happens in hs all the time. In fact, war decs, ganking, bumping etc are all tools that folk use to control systems. Try and put a fort or a keepstar with a market up next to jita and see how long that lasts. ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/488 "2021-03-04T02:44:40Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > the vast majority of people are total jerks, so letting them know what annoys you is almost _guaranteed_ to get them to keep doing it. I don’t know what you’re on about now. We haven’t been discussing what annoys me, that’s a whole different subject I didn’t open here on this thread. You engaged me on a topic and then assumed I was annoyed. I guess that makes an A- out of you & me. ---
**Author:** ![0Lona\_0ltor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0lona_0ltor/32/336276_2.png) [@0Lona\_0ltor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0Lona_0ltor)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/489 "2021-03-04T10:26:15Z")
1. The eve online dollar store front is dire, new players will have difficulty finding it. In my experince from 10 years ago visiting the dollar store was a once every 3 month visit. You should place expert systems in the nex store & sell for plex. 2, You want new players in big player run corps as you know retention is better. Selling for plex will allow PLEX rich vets to spend plex and directly profit new players. Forget $ 1/4 & use this idea to reduce your massive crippling in game plex liability. 1. CCP plex has a dollar value as shown by multiple rmt sites. CCP your plex debt is huge, tackle it and stop being an ostrich over this debt. Vets are not giving you $ CCP as they have so much plex. You think this new system bypassing plex is a good idea? What about the next new monetisation or feature you develop will that bypass plex too? CCP you are forgetting why you made plex in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/490 "2021-03-04T11:18:19Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > They already are. Then this is just one of those announcements for features we didn’t ask for nor were they needed. Typical. ---
**Author:** ![General\_Grevious1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/general_grevious1/32/260469_2.png) [@General\_Grevious1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/General_Grevious1)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/491 "2021-03-04T16:28:46Z")
Lol,this is wors than EA… ---
**Author:** ![Kapacb-Tapac\_OkyHb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kapacb-tapac_okyhb/32/260134_2.png) [@Kapacb-Tapac\_OkyHb](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kapacb-Tapac_OkyHb)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/495 "2021-03-08T17:39:44Z")
You have to make this system tradeable abonements for plex or aurum, cause it sounds like too big credit for CCP balance and too cheap for alphachill. ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/497 "2021-03-08T18:08:56Z")
GO back to subject again 🙂 > [@bluelysian](#): > > Give alpha accounts 1 TIME chance to redistribute their skills under 5 mil skill point and ONLY redistribute alfa limited skills. ( Racial start up standart skill sets not incl ) With condition of first time go omega for that account and buying 1 month omega fee with credit card . ( Not plex not Ingame currency or tradable object. ) ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/498 "2021-03-08T18:10:36Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > Yeah, I’m not a fan. Charging new players money for temporary skills just seems like such a rip off. I don’t care for CCP selling SP directly to players, but at least that’s permanent for the players. Retention is soo high, they can afford to piss a few off 🧻 ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/499 "2021-03-08T18:14:19Z")
I like the idea, but I am worried it has a hangover. When it ends, and lets say the new player had a blast and is sold, reality sets in, now I have to wait 431 days to have those skills… ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Golem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_golem/32/376192_2.png) [@ISD\_Golem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Golem)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/expert-systems-coming-soon/297479/500 "2021-03-08T20:06:39Z")
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